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FANZINE 

FOURTH AND FINAL 

$1.00 





6 FEET UNDER 



1990. It's over. "In Memory Of..." is 
offically a deceased publication. Why? I 
think it's time. When I started this last 
I January, I set out to Drove a few things 
wrong. One namely being you can*t put out a 
decent fanaine out every 2 or3 months. It's 
a task, but, worth it in the long run. "In 
Memory Of..." I honestly feel has been a 
success. It has stirred up much controversy 
and is loved/hated by many. Right now, I 
wish to thank everybody who cared enough to 
read it and give it thought. This year, I 
met a whole slew of new friends & penpals. 
You people are great. Shit, I'm even butt- 
buddies with those guys at Boiling Point 



1990. Has hardcore run it's course? 
I Well, yes and no. I think that it has be- 
come real trendy, as all the huge shows fr 
In-Kffect releases show. Many of these are 
passive and don't give a shit. Now, the few 
people who DO care about things are more 
tightly knit. Soon, there should be a "new" 
underground scene out of this mess. I hope 
, Over the past five years, higher aware- 
I ness about serious issues in life reached 
Ian all-time high. This should spill over in- 
1 to the nineties. What can we do? Sit back 
land listen to the same generic bands, sing- 
1 lng the same old shit or will we get off 

our asses and start a real revolution. Time 
(will tell I guess. 

Sometimes I look back and wonder how/ 
I why I got into all this shit. In the summer 
of 1983, I was flicking stations on the 
radio dial (which was very often because I 
| young and could not afford records), 9.1.1 on 
a tuesday evening, I heard the most incred- 
iable noise. My friend. Rich, had already 
played me the Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks & 
Black *laR, hut it was nothing like this. I 
rtidn't know any of the bands really, r. lowly 
but surely I was listening every week. Be- 
tween this and listening to all of the 
British pop/new wave that were around then, 
I started to breakaway from all mainstream 
music. 198U, I firat began my travels to 
New York, seen Black Hag at the Hitz and 
that totally changed me. I decided to Ret 
serious and find out about hardcore. 



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Thus, I bought alot of hardcore re- 
cords, mainly M.J. ones. *irst "real" show 
was in Feb. '65, Sacred Denial, Sand In The 
Face, Unjust, Malginant Tumor " others. 'AiiS 
was at the Union Rec. Mall in New Jersey. 
One of the best shows I think I've ever soon. 
Rich and T got 3tranded there that night 
which led to me being grounded 'til the 
summer. Rich started to get out of it, I 
began to hang out at Some Records when it 
first opened in late '85. CISGB's was next, 
going there often and started to meet alot 
of people (many who I still know today) and 
learned plenty about the local scene f '86 
was a turning point. I started a newsletter 
"The Shot Heard Around The ivorld" and made 
three tape compilations, "The Shot Heard 
Around The World" (all politieal songs) and 
two volumes of "Live It Live" (all live 
tracks from around the world). I met Sam, 
Neil & Adam, who then were doing "Constru- 
ctive Rebellion". Together we hung out and 
seen alot of shows, etc... 1987 my projects 
slowed to a dead halt. I was more concerned 
with my friends & going to shows, etc... 
This year was the peak of late 'SO'b hard- 
core. N.Y.C. was very productive and record 
collecting became an evil. .Jam stoss hang- 
ing out, don't sea Nell too much until 
Life's Blood. Adam and I become the best of 
friends. I'm generally happy. 1988, vital 
changes in the scene t.ring it to a lead 
stool Kore small shows, though. Life's 
Blood kicks ass. Summer sucke'l show wise 
except for Slap Shot and Bold, they were 
probably the funnest shows of the year. I 
really didn't se° anybody. :io one hung out. 
Definatoly hardcore is dying. 1989. Things 
pick up, so do thn fights. A feeling of an- 
ger makes me write "In Memory Of...". Meet 




I The In Memory Of. 
six months... 



playlist of the last 



I SORN AGAINST demo A live 

I CITIZENS ARREST demo 
NIHILISTICS Lp 

| SCARED STRAIGHT "You Drink, You Drive. 
_ You Die" Lp 
I CHUBBY CHECKER "It's Pony Tijne" Lp 
I "Don't Knock The Twist" soundtrack Lp 
I DEE DEE SHARP "All The Hits vol. 2" Lp 
I LESLIE GORE "Oirl Talk" f, "Songs of 
r Mixed-Up Hearts" Ld's 
| f.REAT GHOST STORIES Lp 

Stuff you don't have and whatever the 
I fuck I want to listen to... 



THR !H HOCflT OP... CCfKI.OMauVri 

"Jell, If you took out ntock in my 
famine, r would Ilka Ut announce that the 
hefty dlrtdeiai checks are In the nail. I 
took over two 'zlnea that were fiolng .ab- 
solutely nowhere. "Wild style" wag a 'alne 
by my friend, Chris Raso. 3eing tho lazy 
bastard tliat ho lo f it nnver came out. 
You'll find ■tone of hla material within 
these pages. Next, we have Noah Uman, who*.* 
fanaine didn't oven have a name yot. He 
aloo buckled under to the major power and 
w.avo ae hie stuff. I would like to thank 
then both for making the wise choice and 
handing mo over all their worthy assets. 
I'll promise to find them some moii-Dushii« 
Jobs In one of my office buildlnge.-DAVK 



ntw people and I am happy. Adam A I some- 
times feel we are the only serious straight 
edgers left. I'm put in the hospital with 
some strange bone/skull/ear disease. I 
could of died because of it. Made mo think 
about life. 

What is all this leading to. My life's 
story? I don't know, I guess I'm just ram- 
bling. I hope everybody just enjoyed the 
last few years through all the up's & 
downs. Yeah, I maybe a loudmouth, , but, I do 
care about other people's ideas (well, 
maybe SOME people's!). Hardcore is the most 
sincere form of music that presents a mess- 
age. Let's keep it that way. I listen to all 
kinds of muslo, but I always find myself 
going back to my hardcore records for in- 
spiration. Keep it real & underground. Don't 
let it get shitty & generic, keep it away 

from the mindless massos who'll make it 
trendy for all the wrong reasons. 

I hope you guys /girls can grasp most 
of what I wrote and sort it out. I 'm no 
writer, I have alot of ideas. Sometimes it 
is hard to get them down on paper. If you 
people ever want to talk, Just wilte to me. 
Communication is important. Just because 
I'm stopping this, doesn't mean I'm out of 
it. (Ho matter what I tell people) My next 
project is going to be a horror fanzine. I 
hope it works out. 

One other thing I wish to share with 
all of you. I recently moved out of my 
parent's plaoe (finally!?!), and I tell you 
I should have done It sooner. It is defin- 
atoly an experianee, doing everything your- 
self. It gives you a whole new feeling of 
freedom. A different kind oE freedom I 
never felt. Sure, it's expensive, but, 
money's evil, so use it up on food, bills 
and you can live. I would like to thank my 
parents here for not being scum like most 
parents arc to their children. I love you. 

Well, people, good luck in all vou dc, 
"IN MEMORY OF..." was worth all the agony 
it caused me. Good bye- David Koenig 




OR WILL PEGGY MARCH CLAIM THE CROWN FOR 
HERSELF! 



IN KEHOtt OK... another piece of my 
life coning to a end in alot of way*. 
Dave and 1 will no longer put out thin 
famine. 1 an finally qultlng school and 
striving to become totally independent. 
It feels as if >et another cycle of the 
hardcore punk thing has truly ended too, 
1966-1989. 1 can't imagine what'* next. 
I would never have thought in 1985 that 
I Youth Of Today or Warione would have be- 
com world famous in relative Una. What- 
ever, that sounds kind of trival, 1 guess 
it is. So Many friends I thought and felt 
would be around forever have slipped away 
Into self-indulgence and awdlocrity- they 
probably think I have stagnated. My word 
for sUgnatlon in this case is commitment. 
I would feel really uncomfortable about 
going back on my personal beliefs and 
standards, whether or not old friends think 
1 they might be negative attributes. I think 
that 1 have a severe case of knee- Jerk 
reaction against the mild-mannered con- 
formity so many people I knew jumped Into. 
I try to surround myself with hardcore 
■tuff-shows, ■lines, bands, etc... It Is 
getting harder to do thi* outside of ay 
own flyer -covered, famine-laden Apart- 
[ ment. am 1 living In the oast? Is thla 
unhealthy? The phyalcality of the state 
of the Hew York -scene' has chanced too. 
CBOB'a and all of the rest of downtown 
| Manhattan are rapidly being gantrlfled 
Into something about as Interesting as 
a suburban «aU- that's an Bageratlon. 
But T wonder where all the homeless and 
I poor will go with the advent of corporate 
neighborhood control, mere In New lrun- 
•wlck, where I live, the oendoe keep com- 
ing on quicker snd quloker, *moroaehlnff 
on and raising the taxes and rente of the 
only housing the snjarity of the resident- 
1 here oan afford. I am one of those people 
I In a •ense-becaiiM I cannot swing a high 
I rent, but In reality I an bv no mane 
I laporerlshed. I save a back-up system of 
I friends sad family tight enough to Insure 
I I'll Met likely newer not get by. It is 
I vwry stifling and gullt-rldden to oome 
from the suburbe-out the advantaga* of 
being white, male and educated give bv 
I an advantage here-I wonder If that edge 
| la unfair. 

For ay own sanity I had to remove *y- 
**lf from the restrictions of parent*, 
•uburbi* and prosperity the way I do. 9o 
I smny people aspire to what I r».tect and I 
I wonder If when they get there, their child - | 
ran will shit on suburbia and prosperity 
the way I do. I guess i hi- is the disill- 
usioned college student post-mink syndrome. 
I but I think ay questions are more focused 
and concrete than the slew of sool-aear- 
ohlng self-lsmglned artlstsa who are really 
Into impotent pop muslo in the guise of 
alternative new rock. This Is not tx.it- 
punk, this is my full dedication to a life 
of being a bastard and getting many more 
tattoos. -Adam Hathanson 



v WALKING 



m 



l .,i i tine mans 
S-j fight for 



"truth. 




a II the news... 



Well, the past six months In N.V.C. have 
yometlmee boen fun, other tines boring. One 
thing for sure is that the N.Y.C. hardcore 
acene is in a lull. Sometimes it feels rvm- 
exintont, but as long as a few people hanR 
out and still believe In it, it will never 
totally die. Anywnyo, the big story is that 
GOB's is no longer having hardcore matinoos- | 
Yes, this has happened before, but, this 
time it looks Like it's forever. The past 
few months has seen extreme violence at the 
weekly show, it wan becoming too nuch to 
digeat. In a way, I think it's good because 
now we'll have to got up off our asses and 
look into alternatives for having shows. 
We'll sn-». 



Some band news- Horn Against is some- 
what inactive at the moment, having severe 
line-up problems. Vflil things ever go right 
for tills band? I certainly hope so. Cltlsen't 
Arrest, another bright new band on the scene, 
in pitying alot of shows as of late, con- 
centrating on small venues. They bring back 
somo memories of older bands with their 
style of playing, rhey have recorded two 
tracks for an upcoming local comp. Lp and 
It li very possible that they will have a 
7" out on the Draw Blank label. OOI has a 
7" coming out. Blackout Records has a whole 
3lew of records coming out. Bill Wilson is 
being very productive as of labs. He tells 
me that Uppercut's new l?" "Four Walls" is 
sold out of their rirst pressing of l500. 
a :>nd pressing will be out soon. Outburst 
will (we a 7" out by the time you read 
this, 500/blue, lOU/rod * :."00/black. Then 
a Sheer Terror live 7" Is planned with a 
set number of l ,000 to be made. 500/olive 
green, tOO/green 4 white swirl and a .spe- 
cial white vinyl pressing with a secret 
surprise. You'll have to find out for 
yourself, »e "Where The Wild Things Are" 
cpmp. lp has been licensed to Link records 
for U.K. A Suropean distribution. Maximum 
Penalty will probably be out early this 
year (1990) and possibly a Crawlpappy 7" 
in the near future. 



Leaving the area ft moment, latest 
news is Slap Shot is calling it quits 
soon. The possible last show date was 
Dec. 10th, 1989 in Boston. They have re- 
corded their new record with songs like 
•What's At Stake", "Something To Prove", 
•Ootta Oet Out" A other unreleased mat- 
| erlal. You can say all the things you 
want about them, but I liked them alot 
and they will be missed. Last of the 
"militant" straight-edge bands. 

Contrary to what I was told last 
Issue, Sticks And Stones did not break 
up and are putting out another 7", which 
] will be out on Skene records In early '90. 
Probably the only redemminK thing left In 
that dismal Hew Brunswick scene. 

The Krakdown 7" is finally coming out, 
expect it soon on Conrnon Cause Records, 
the people who brought you In Your race. 
Vermiform oomp, T 1 out soon with Born Ag- 
ainst, Life's Blood, Absolution & Ifausea. 
Damn, Nausea has been having alot of songs 
on comnlla tions , but whore's a record by 
them. Isn't there any justice in this pa- 
thetic (seo I spelled it right this timed 

world. A new label called Bvacuats Records 
will ho putting out an compilation Up with 

Nausea, Krakdown and too many to list and 

some to be named later. 

I Everytlme 1 talk to people it 
seems they are all putting out some bands* 
rucord. I tell you If they all cone through 
19VO is going to be a plentiful year for 
records. Will the new underground rise from 
the old? Time will tell. He-Hsmber, H.Y.C. 
J is one of the most unstable scenes In the 
world, things change weekly here, 30 anv 
of the above Info can change without notice. 
One final note, Tore-y Rat of Warzone, Trip 
I Sixfame, is going to release a 7" of Trip 
J Six material. Don't know all the details, 
1 but It should be interesting. -Dave K. 

NKWS POST SCRJPTi Slapahot did not break 
up. The Dec. loth show was only JAmlo'a 
last as their bassist. Smashin' Through 
famine and Rig Mouth fanzine should be 
out by now. Night Trash A Just Lies are 
Joining together and releasing a split 
Issue. The Life's Blood ?" "Defiance" 
has bean repressed again. Look for ads 
for the addros*;. 



Record STape 
Reviews 



"ere « .re agalji, the In Ifemiry Of.., 
revl-w, section, ill renew, ar8 bv m 
unleoe noled. Roaaafcor, In the fanoua 
words of n«tecU»e Harry Callahan, .opi- 
nion, are like aa.holee, everybody has 
one," -Dave 



the rest 



UPPER HAND "More To Me" 7" 

It's a shame so many of tha "poal" 
records that come out these days are so 
generic and repeltlve. We have all hoard 
it all before, beat ft moah, typical lyrics. 
The production Is good though, but, that 
doesn't save thla. Instant collector's item, 
only 500 made. 



INSTANT JUSTICS Demo 

More generic & bland music. If siek 
Of It All or Raw Deal didn't exist, ne- 
ither would this band. Supposlvely, this 
is going to be an upcoming 7", I guess 
this is early warning. 

t3.00 to 1 Instant Justice 
y> North Lane 
North Wales, PA 1 )U\ I, 



INTENT TO INJUR* "Keep th, strong" 7" 

Heel good-looking Independent single, 
and the mueio la preety etrudy, What holds 
this back Is not the production (except 
Tor the tinny sounding guitar), but the 
nix. The drums are way too loud, no baas 
•to. Otherwise, this is a decent release, 
seems like the Boston scene U on the 
rise again, but where's the Rye For An Ere 
4 Crossfaoe records? 

*3.50 toi Overkill Records 

0/0 Kiereten Hanson 
P.O. Box 2022 u 
SeettU, we 9fll02 

This label has also re-lsaoed the hard to 
find Brotherhood 7" for 4 J.50 | 



TUN OTCVT Dame 

First of all, let's taw* tha* point* 
for making fun mf th* Beyond demo at th* 
beginning of the tap*, it'* real funny. 
Recording 1* lop-notch for a demo and it 
sounds like they got their shit together. 
Muslo and lyrios maybe a littl* typical at 
time*, but that oan be easily ovar-looked 
for thla is a daoant tap* to have. 

$3.00 tot Aaron Kaufman 

656 J tat ion Plata 
Woodmere, U.J. 11596 



RAW ORAL "Brlghteld*" Lp 

Don't give m* thi* Killing Ham non- 
sense, we all know who the real culprit* 
are who sad* this awful trash. Raw Deal 
have gone from being an Interesting hard- 
core band to becoming a predictable heavy 
metal aot. Damn, all th* songs here newer 
had the amount of solos as they do now. 
More genericness from In-Kffect. P.S. If 
you say you like this, we know you are 
lying. 

K-Hu-t or Sears should have this. 



PRODUCT HI«rrrnuV Demo 

FLrat, the Rood news. The lyrios ore 
top-notch, (ewoent maybe "Analyie This") 
covering topics like being anti -American 
and personal problems. They are also tho 
first to use tho new Maxell rounded cass- 
ette boxes I Bad news Is that the muslo 
Isn't very «ood and the recording Is verv 
bad. Ch well, this is your choice. 

$3.00 « ,50# in »i im, - to, 
Cereal Box Productions 
c/o Zack 
1907 Ditmaa 
Brooklyn, N.I. 11 226 



JERRY'S KIDS "Kill, Kill, Kill- In 

I never was a big fan of this hand, 
but, their flret Lp "Is This My World?" 
is good to throw on every onoe In a while. 
"Kill, Kill, Kill" can bs ccuDared to that 
PHC "Pissed Playground" Lp. Half of It Is 
some powerful muslo, while the other half 
is sone of the worst art-fag experimental 
shit you have over heard. Not the boat 
thing In the world. 

Twang Records 



■TtKE FOR ALL Coup. Lp l6bol-9ii$8-l. 

four bands are presented harej Token 
Entry, Wrecking Crew, Rest In Pieces A 
No For An Answer. None of the bands here 
got any Justice in the recording {which 
was done live at the "Hawkerfest" CDQB'e 
April 8th, 1 989 > The way they write these 
records up, "The Edge(Kxtcnded Mix)"??? 
What is this, a damn disco record?? Not 
worth getting at all, better live record- 
ings elsewhere. 

Hawker Records 



SUBURBAN KA09 "Land Of The Free?" d> 

Decent thrash bend with some breaks, 
vocals sounding oddly like B.Q.K.. Don't 
agree with the pot unoking smiley faces 
and thanking beer oonpanles, but it doee 
have a good sound, n tracks. 

$3.00 toi Warren Walsh 

31 Bradley Terr. 
W.Orang*, N.J. 07052 



POSITIVE APPROACH "Just Hang On" 7" 

Not tha best name In the world, but it 
Is not a bad record. Odd vocals, good fait 
parts and not that many mash. Another In- 
stant collector's item, very hard to find. 
If you have to choose betwwOD this and some 
of the other records presented here, Posi- 
tive Approach would be a decent choice. 
Another 00D thanker??? 

$3.00 toi Conversion Records 
26861 Trabuco Road 
Mission Vlojo, CA 92691 



SONS 0/ Ishmakl "Sir* Generic Crap" 7» 

thmJ^L. 1 thOTU(ht **•* broke up, afur 
«»t lp thmy put out, I gare up on them I 

Jhey juet don't haw* it anymore. The lyrios 
■re reelly good, meetly covering serlouT 
topic. It'. JU *t that the muei™ iTbS! The 
cover doeen't hip either. If. greet that 
th*y put it out by th*m..lv.., iSTtheir 

■Haya-d Hardcor.- end Me what magiTthc. 

•3.00 toi Son* Of Ishmawl 

1979 long* 3t. #5 
Toronto, On. 
NUS 126 
Canada 



SHsXTam adranoe tap* for th* record 

I won't b* eble to review this when the 
actual record oomee out, *o I got ahold of 
the adranoe tap*, all I hews to say 1* if 
fou buy thi* yem ar* supporting sow* mind- 
la** religion. This record is siek ft per- 
roro*, complete with krlsbna chanting, Ray 
Coppo n*ed* to wake up and 11t*I 

Revelation Record* out eoon 
OORILU BISCirXTS "Start Today" Lp 

I know all of you reading thla ar* go- 
ing to think I hat* this reoord. Well, you 
are right. For e band who doesn't support 
it's ecene, they've gotten mighty popular. 
It'* all undeserved. About the reoord, ye* 
it does sound like Dag Nasty. They tell u* 
don't watch TV and don't own a pet, the 
rest of the lyrics are the "we-have-heerd- 
it-*U-bafore" typ*. I juat donlt under- 
stand how this band got 00 popular. Reval- 
ation standard. 

On Revelation at fine etaree. 



OUTBURST "Miles To Co" 7" 

I really startod to like this band 
«fter hearing thier tracks on the hew 
Breed comp., even the ones on the Hlack- 

Uke Raw Deal If you didn't know who it 
really was, y 0u might think so. if „„ 
1 like th* things that have been coming 

»3.» toi Blackontl Recordo 
P.O. Box 561. 
Y onkers, N.y. 10710 



soBBum ooaajoniaa -uic. it or uu? it- r 

I "M hmlni »o» good filing, rtiout 
getting thi. I^cord, ilno. It w bMng .old 
«t . siiou far ».00. Unforun«tolj, Ud. moord 
■uoloi n»l l»l. ThTM track, eaoh on. a dlf- 
f«r«it etyla, on. being an linili n.ailal 
DonH Ilk. It at All. 

•3.00 toi Truwit Itecard. 
P.O. Box 0218S 
Haaphl., Q 1810|j 



BAD TRIP "Po*itiv*ly Bed" 7" 






Thle record isn't as "bad" as some a±.rht | 
think. Musically, It is Bramkdownleh, In j 
other ways It's not. Real nice layout, not I 
generic at all. 1 gueas thi* la an* you'll | 
have to decld* on for yourself. Tak* a chano*. 1 


$3.00 toi Ball Bottom Records 
o/o Joes Rul* 
27 Tower* St. 
Jersey City, N.J. 07305 





YOUTH TOUTH YOUTH repackaged Lp 

"no aid* la th* classic "Sin" 12" re- 
vl*w*d In our old record* thing last Una. 
Tha othar aid* 1* demo* froa *B2 and •81. 
Tha production on th* dean* la aheaay-th* 
drum* sound Ilka they're balni tapped out 
on a deck and tha guitar* are tr*bl*y and 
lticht, but it would a till ba good quality 
If It Ma* only a dean. Tha aualo Itself la 
Rood and catchy but not aa forceful aa tha 
«.P. aide. "Had* In Knalend' and "Apathy- 
are tha beat demo song*. There 1* an ea~ 
baraaaing hofcay rianadlan veralon of -Loul* 
Louie". "Doalnatlon* 1* don* differently 
h*re than on Soaathing TO n*H*v* In (BTO), 
aun« with different lyrlo*. The peckaglnj. 
1* a real drag. Th* cover joajt eays YOUTH 
T<xmi TOOTH and there la no lyrlo sheet to 
be found anywhere. Still, X had to buy 
this reaord to satisfy ay desire for early 
C a n a di a n hardcore. It seeaa Uke the only 
new record* I like are old recording* ■- 
Deatbviah, Deadline, TYI, Impact Unit and 
I think there 1 * a R*otll* Houm 12" ceas- 
ing out. If you don't have tha first try. 
»?•, you should fucking (at thl* albun 
f»a*t«rll -aDah 

Fringe aaoorde 



ALCvlI IN A CBUJD 7" 

Wall, I*vs heard the tracks froa thl* 
record snathe ego and have aald on aany 
oecaalons that T liked th* auaie alot. It 
always gave a* a aour t**U In ay aouth 
though beaau** this hand was asking a bin 
deal about thla record and asrer r*ally 
left the studio. Jul** Is a friend of mine, 
but I atut aay all tha lyric* hcra are full 
of -lilt, For a band whoee assbars don't re* 
lly actively *upport their local scene, 
they hare alot to aay about It. "T* any- 
body thereT" aakee a point, but Is there 
any effort on their part to change ltT Ho. 
■who You Know* can deflnately be directed 
at band* Uke Aid* By Side, who would have 
gotten ii< -where If they didn't know th* 
right people, all I have to nay in good, 
•olid Music, but, it reeks with unslncer- 
Ity. People around the world. Alone In A 
Crowd Is a record and not a band, don't 
think otherwise. 

(3.50 ppd tot Flux Kccords 
P.O. Box 1033 
Newport, B.I. 0261*0 

P.S. It says -Pay No More Than $3.00" on 
it, well, Flux Reoorda, Venus is selling it 
for 15.00 and I»m euro Bleeckera will do 
the aaae if given the chance. Do something 
about it I 



DKAniUTSlI "TailHftte ' /■■ 

I don't oven know If T r hould review 
this because It is .Just an old record! »■ 
of thin dofunct Boston band. Also, you 
probably will not be able to Ret It be. 
cause there is only throe hundred Made. 
If you like any hands lllca Impact Unit/ 
Negative Fl/Last Rights, them this record 
is for you. Pretty cool to have, (lest thing 
though, is tha covert Front, the scsne In 
which Kersey blows away a thug on a sub- 
way platform. Backi The very last scene of 
th* aovie. 

(Ho address) 



SQUAT OR ROT coap. 7- 

Tory lnprcsslTs set-op here, glad to 
see something out dociaamting th* H.T.C. 
•quattar* seen*. Bran if you don't like 
*ny of tha band* presented, (which arej 
3»A, aaslstura, Nausea, Public Nulaanoe 4 
Th* Medic ta) gat It at laaat for the awe- 
•oaa nawspapar that cosua with it. It ex- 
plain* shout Squat or Rot, p i M irforn* 
you about anlaal right* a cmallty fre* 
product*, shah bend also ha* * pan, what 
thl* oould have doa* without is th* oan- 
Vanpraad with pletar** of all thadr 
Mmmw and aayb* th* hedlet* co-id bar* 
*m -ceesthlng aore with thoir page than 
J*"* slap another Oaah-lah nhotn* a* It, 
TtaM grim* aside, this record is oae 
to expert no aattar what. My fares-it* 



•3.00 Ui 



.lutSlims HSLEA3K "Prison Of Hy Own" ?■ 

This band has changed slot through 
their «xt3tanos(Thoy have disbanded), 
"Prison Cf Ky Own" show their last stage. 

Vary weird because if you heard the tracks 
from the Now Breed coap., you'll think this 
la a different band. Jokingly, a couple or 

my friends coapar* this to later Black Flag, 
I find it to be closer to the Saint Vitus 

records. The echo 6 distortion ars on 10. 

Three songs here, I like this. Deflnatoly 

needs a lyric sheet, though. 

A3. So toi New Age "ocorda 
10)6 Mt. Whitney 
Big Dear City, Cs 9?)ll| 



IHSTBD -We'll Hake The Difference" 7- 

This five songer came* off alot bettor 
than "Bonds Of Friendship", lyrically and 
auolcally stronger, although It sounds a 
little rushed in the production department. 
Orafioally, Nemesis did a fine Job on it. 
Also, it is on yellow vinyl. Still, all In 
all, I will always feel that they ripped 
off Youth of Today a little too auch. 

$3.50 toi Insted 

658 S. Scout Trail 
Anahela, Ca 92607 



JUD3I "Chung King Can Suck III" Lp 

Well, I really don't understand why 
they trashed this recording. I think it 
is really good. All tha songa cone off 
very well, even those stupid chuky aetal 
rock ones. If you think you will be able 
to buy thl*, you are sadly mistaken un- 
less you are sea* fool who ha* $250.00 
to throw away. There 1* alot of tap** of 
this recording, so you'll probably be able 
to pick it up that way. 109 on whit* vinyl, 
a collector's dreaa. Beat NYC Ip of 19&9) 

On tha wall at Venus. 



Scant Or Mot 
T lawg HH ii , aq. at,. 
F.O. Baa ?00i? 
R.T., I.T. 10009 



SQAOT OR ROT coaptation 7" 

Th* avast Impressive part of thl* eff- 
ort la U» booklet, though th* auaio 1* 
great too. The lnf oraat.ioca.1 Dowepapcr 
forBBt works really well, with lota of 
statist*** and ract* about anlaal right* 
and going cruelty fro*. Th* artwork and 
layout throughout are quit* political 
*nd vary awjll den*. Thara are ao aany 
addrea*** and phone nunbar* to call sad 
wrtta to helo th* aninala-I just hop* 
svaryone who **U thla coap. feela ccap- 
all*d after reading th* Info, to tak* 
ictlm. 

aaoh band ha* a peg* in th* nevapaner/ 
booklet too, and they all look pretty 
good, especially th* -auaea page. Th* 
production is unlfora throughtout-kinda 
wxHoor* but atUl acceotablo. 3»A start* 
off with "ayroacop*". It sounds real 
good, orobably th* best thing T »ve heard 
Iroa th*e band-no lyrics nn their oace 
so I don't know what it's about, anywayn 
a pleasant surprise from thla band. 



Nausea doe* "Productive not Deatnic- 
1.1--',-, lyrioally well lntantlomd about 
huaanklnd'e oapactty for deatruotlon. Tlie 
bass aound* a lltU- weird thoiuih and it 
sounds like their new singer Al la sing- 
in* with s British accent. Public Nuis- 
ance kinds suok but that's not a aurortae. 
Their page is cool thouah, shewing CBOn'e 
being blown up, T wish aoaecne would do it 
for real. Radlots, Judging by the band 
photos on their page-mally really really 
want to be the Clash. Their music punky 
and aggressive, very catchy. ResiBturi 
do "Nasi Bullshit", a cool cross between 
British threat) liko Chaos UK and New York 
hardcore of the past. The total package 
canes out * total winner- thla is music 
with a purpose, that fact alone puts it 
far above most of the ahlt floating around 
today- ADAM 



ofthe 

litter 



BOWl AOUNST Demo 

I prob.bl, 11J,. ur.,, „ loM b „ M 

t-rtcor.. fcUUjr mcklmt lnUn.,1 Su.; 
•oo«l«Bo rro> ,cr—m to MlaUd y«Us. 

"11 wltUn it t. un bdlMto, IM. „o 
nor. applanation. DoTlnatoly for tha wabW- 
hmrUd. Ovn ltn JJ^ " 

Send a blank tape toi 
P.O. Box I1U5 Cooper Sta. 
«™ fork, K.r. 10P76 



CITIZKNS AR1UBT Demo 

This 1. really good. What more can you 
aak for, generic thra.li with » uttl. melcly 
tlu^o-n In n „ .„ d ag „ n plu , lne k(nd of 

that Ul. lmll w,„ e hlghM- ..,„ dof , 

not orertioet. One of the beet In a while I 
hope they play out eoon. 

$?.00 to, Joe Ifcrtln 

W12-06 u8tli AT.. 
"•relii., N.I. 11)61, 



Fanzine 

Reviews 



BOILING POINT 



•?.'»- 



Boiling Point 1* doflaataly a fanaln* 
to ba reckoned with. Y*ah, I had ay gripes 
la th* paat with th*a, but tlwnlr fanaine 
«M alw*/s gsod r ee dl ag (aaAAuVUOOOrnmi 1 1 I 
bat the** taahy baclumasDd*!). Anyways, 
thl* l*ew* ba* vary good Interview* with 
Chain Of Strength, Beyond, Sick Of It All, 
aa* Deal A -wgaal (TUCXI). Taair own art- 
1*1** on ir*g*l*j-lsfld*a ar* wall thought 
oat, but th*v aoald at** aoa* althovt th* 
■aroaed PITA page. They include a vary 
**»awra*s>lw» n,i of eoaranle* of cruelty 
free prcdaat* and thee* who tact ca anl- 
■al*. Thl* 1* * aaart read, don't 1st th* 
prloa hold you bach) How loag Mil Issue 
#u. guyvT 

TOI Boillnr i'oint 
fl/o Dannie Chsag 

10S aagl* Croft ad. 
«*atfi*ld, H.J. 070V0 

COMBAT STANCE ao* If .7$« in *ta^ap* 

Oh, Belling Polnt'a going to love 
thl* Issue. Hall peopl*, thla is your 
la*t Chano* to gat this Solf-proolalaed 

aaniln* of unadult*ratod hat*. Int. w/ 
■togar Mr*t and a first-class on* with 
Itobocop. Nora ".lu»t-caii't~lu.U-ei...urh" 
editorials, th* sail bag, th* faaou* 
recipe and a Stacy Donovan pictorial 
(ToB'g in doll). Pro avarythlnt you 
ars against. Also, s vary funny "What 
If..." section, plu* th* •ver-popular 
back cover win* a* over even though I 
tir* of thalr overtly violent attitude. 
Coaplste your set. 

Address Is In with the interview. 



LA1T IUZS No#3 $1.00 

Slowly, but surely this is becoming 
on* of ny faTorlto H.T.C. fanslnos. Can't 
be classified in anyway, has it's own sense 
of direction. Int. w/ Last Laugh, Sheer 
Terror, New Breed, warsons. Iceman A Upper 
Hand. Dnan, Qloa even printed her poll re- 
sults, unlike Schlsn, who thaew thelr's 
out. Hove, reviews, pictures & aore. A 
little on tha light side visually, all in 
all good roadlng and recommendod. 

Toi Gina 

U19 Van Siclen Avenue 
Brooklyn, N.Y. u?07 



bULUHIT MONTHLY Ho# 21 .35* ppd 

Another class act by Hike. As always, 
rlGM keeps you up to date about our ever- 
changing N.Y. ocene. Bverythlng is here 
from nova to roviewo. In the claaolc Mike 
Bullshit style. Snail, but cramed with 
lnfonutlon. Get it. 



Toi 



BSM 

175 5 th Avenue #?5f-9 

N.Y., N.Y. 10010 



COHTAX ONE No# L $1 .GO 

I don't understand why so many rag on 
this 'sine or why parties unnanwjd keep 
Bonding Becky slsba of bacon. This 'line 
is really pood. Plenty of material to read, 
int. w/ Raw Deal, Dead Sllenoe, React, In- 
tensity, A.T.G., No Outlet, Brotherhood, 
Problems faced. On Ouard, Blackout Records, 
Seiiure, Constant Grief, Straight Froa The 
Heart, And soaeone froa the A.R.A. Wide 
variety of Ideas are presented, sure most ia 
liberation atuff, but so what. Also auch 
news and reviews and I suggest you get It. 



Toi 



Becky Parrone 

12 Harriett Une Kant 

Darlen, Ct 06620 



ALTVB 4 DIRECT No# U $1.00 

Unfortunately, thla is very baslo A 
plain, kind of aore thrown togothor than 
thought out. Int w/Blind Approach, Inten- 
sity, Stuabling Way A On Track. .<>oa* photo* 
A roviewa. Needs a little work. 

Toi Alive A Direct 

20 Worth* HI 11 Lane 
'Tinoeton, H.J, OD&O 

;iLgNT VICTORT No# ? $1.00 (l.50ppd) 

Saaraple of a good straight-edge 'sine, 
■aybe a Uttle ovardons, but effort-wino 
It is a plu*. Int. w/3holth*r. Raw Deal, 
Kac* To race, 31ck Of It All, The 0*llev„ra 
Head First, Token Rntry, Waraone A rnsio* 
Jut. lots of picture*, ad* A revioww, just 
Ignore the ad for ••**• for All". It Is a 
ihitty raoord. A dM*nt read. 

Toi A.J. IwKloako 

16 1 Stratford need 
«*v Britain, CT 060$] 



M.A.S. No# 9 12.00 

Th* laat ImuoTI -Aaae, oeoaua. again 
hore'a aaoUun- fin* ewspla „f . BOO ,, tmn . 

MMd, Crib Daata, Th* Sorods, PorooUln 
I Boy* 4 D.J. Ubowlta plus all the usual 
I lMe.-e.Ling reading yea g« t froa M.A.S. . 
I Sean* report*, 'sin*, raoord A Up* nrrieaej 
f oslnlon*, coliaens, article*, ad* end eo 
l aore. Out of th* a*he* of thl* will 
l another •aln* -Profane LxlsWae.-. 
| Writ* and find out whoa. 

Toi P.O. Boa 8722 

Unnoapolla, Da 55hOO 



Ua-ITI Ro# 2 $1.50 

Much lsmruianaiit froa th* la*t Issue, 
but there 1* still slot of whit* *pSC*. 
Spaeo la warUI Interview, with Gorilla 
Msculte, Ins tad. Stand Proud, No Par An 
An*— x A Dog Tired. Picture* are top-notch, 
layout* ar* staple A«l*an. I would ju*t 
i^duo* everything and ittidato tha review* 
A stuff like that, but good reading. 

Toi Jaawj* Unite 

30-53 8>d Street 

Jackson Keighta, queens, I.T. 11370 



AXBUCaN DtPACT au# 1 $1.00 

IM really have to say that thl* is one 
of the worst famine* I've read in a long 
tin*, una -sided copies, poor photo*, badly 
hand-written A no layout whatsoever. Inter- 
views with Forced Reality, The Elit*, Bio- 
hasard. Brute Force A Power Surge. I really 
can»t belelve sh* sold thla for a dollar. 
Totally effortless f 

Toi Diana 

1u?1 Moesbank Road 

Point Pleasant, N.J. ■''... 



SOLD OUT ... f 8 $2.00 

Daan, I aald last Issue that I wouldn't 
■:nt this ■agasln* any longer, but, I was 
coapelled to read because they gratiously 
reviewed air 'sine. Sven that doesn't let 
them off the hook, a carbon copy of *7 f 
Int. w/No For An answer, Cro-hega, Fire 
Party, Whit Zombie A Bin Skala Blm. More 
full-page ads for your liking, beautifully 
styled layout* and intelligent writings. 
Yeah right, this is shit, pure A simple, a 
crying ehaas that so auch money Is spent 
making this. Easily consumable 

Sold Out 
P.O. Box 7071 
Windsor, Ontario 
N9C 3T6 
CANADA 



STOP AND THINK No*" 3 $1.50 

First off, I think Dan A Dave should 
gst a gun and kill the guy who printed up 
this 'sine. It's way too light l Huge fan- 
sin*, int w/Maadua Penalty, Verbal Assault, 
Turning oolnt. Head First, The Bellvers, 
Breakaway, Die Hard, Insted, D.Y.S., Slaa 
Dunk, Blind Approach, Wrecking Crew ft Inner 
Strengh. Shitloeds of ads (Ditch those 
Hawker A Carolina ones!), photos A reviewa. 
Plenty of good roadlng here. Dan A Dave, 
I finally got ahold of the other two lsnuea 
and they are pretty good. Keep It up I 

Toi Dan Wasser 
7 Dock Rd. 
Norwalk, Ct. 0665h 



liOOD * I'LETY Wo# J 4.1. 00 

Thlo 'zlne would be really j;real if the 

poal atuff wasn't bo overdone. Half-nix.-, 
| the editor crams in nlot and the type isn't 

even reduced! Interviews w/ Gorilla Uie- 
. cults, Inattid, Brotherhood, hold & JudK*. 

Many ads, photoa f. reviews mnke thin one to 

flat. Qood Job. 



To i 



Oabe Rodrlguei 
21 16 Salem Blvd. 
Zion, Tl 60099 



FREE THOUGHT Mo# l $|.'JO 

This would be decent because at first 
glance you look at the color ewer and go 
"WW" I, but It doesn't follow-up substance 
wlee. Int. w/lnner Strength, Straight From 
The H Mr t^ Implement, Face Up, Stomping 
Ground f, Powerhouae. Interrlewa and re- 
views are skimpy and xeroxed vngatarian 
flyars are minuses. A good point la the 
photo pages, they nre well done. Thla must 
have coat a fortune to make. 

Toi Eric & Hike 

5219 Wyoming fid. 
Betheeda, HD 208l6 



JERSEY BEAT No* }8 $1.^0 

Well, thla i rcmn doesn't have much 
that I'm interacted in, but, Jim has al- 
ways covered the college circuit type 
hands very well. Int. w/ Orifice, Shades 
Apart, Kings a. Wretched Ones, American 
Standard & tona of reviews , Hany records 
of which I wouldn't touch. 

Toi Jim Teste 

Ul 6 Uregory Ave. 
Weehawken, H.J. 070A7 



CAUSE AND EFFECT No# 2 Si .50 

A baalc, but good 'altvo covering the 
California area. Int. w/ Headfirst, Ho For 
An Answer, Insted, Haywire ft D.I.. Mice 
layout, (even Uiough they use a computer) 
many ids 4 photoe, and a very on-targot 
review by Dreg I., about Underdog's Lp. 

Toi Aaron Sllbemin 

I9fc22 Sierra Unda 
Irvine, Cn 9??l5 



ZOMBIE SQUAD No* .1 $1."i0 ppd 

Thla is a bit old, but, he might have 
another one out by tho time you read this. 
Interviews w/76i Uncertain, Seven .Seconds, 
Circle Jerks, Henry Hollina Band, U.K. Subs 
Dickies ft Process Revealed. Alot of effort 
went into thla, nice layout ft many ads sup- 
porting an "underground" scene. 



Toi 



Donald Rodgern 
120? Dorchester Ave. 
Ottawa, Ontario 
R1Z 8H, CANADA 



On A ORIP Ho# 3 $1.00 ($1.50) 

Decent Phlllv 'line with Breakdown, Die 
Hard, Fit Of ANger ft Blind Approach. Doesn't 
ureak any new ground layout-wiao, looks like 
everybody elaes. Photos, show ft record ro- 
vlnwa...HawkT ad. ..Old material. ..not much 
elae... 

Toi Kike Aulthoueo 

I?Jj7 ft*raevtlla Road 
Itownlngtown, I* 19335 



3KATIK1 4 MUSIC No# 2 41.00 

A decent 'line. It la Just I don't like 
none of the bands Interviewed in It, Murphy'i 
[aw, 2Ji-7 Ipy*. Inside Out(eaat coast one) 
plus It has sturf about akatlng in It. If 
that's you bag, get It. Very good layout 
though. 



[r,| 



Arlam Alleman 
li Ufyetto Ct. 
Greenwich, Ct 06fl30 



N" AHSWEH3 



Uo0 7 $1.50 



I've been reading this 'nine nVnco loh 
if? arid I will alwiya recommend it to people, 
but thlB inn really bothered me, lit! gives 
■ lot of apace to Fugail '. Uniform Choi no, 
I who in mv opinion have nothing tc say. His 
article on legalising drugs is frightening, 
r aholulely Ju»l don't agree with it. I think 
he's getting to eau, ht up with ideology of 
things lusted of concentrating store on the 
munlc lteelf. Other than that, 11 is real 
good. Int. w/lHrEST, Siapshot and Inaide Out, 
Really fantastic photoa, rwny revi^wn of re- 
cords nr/1 a few famines. No matter how natch 
I might disagree with what he aaya, I aay, 
get this issue of No Answers. 



DARKSrDE No# 1 Free (send stamps) 

This probably will not be available, 
but, I gueaa the next one will be out soon. 
All it conaiata of is Interviews with Sheer 
Terror ft Rest In Pieces. It la very sloppy 
and It is copied on lined paper <?!?). I 
don't even think Rich ft Charlie would try 
something like this. 

Toi Vln Oralnl 
7 Hunsee Or. 
Cranford, N.J. 07016 



DEAR JESUS Ho*j6(l) *l .00* »1 .50) 

If I ever mako a list of my top ten fan- 
ilnea of «69, thla will deflnataly be in the 
top three. Sam He Pheetera totally goes be- 
yond \he Plain Truth thing and blows you 
away with intelligent material ft writings. A 
wide variety of interviews | No For An Answer, 
Hilly Kristal of CBOB's, Ian of Mschord, 
Life's Blood, Nausea, Soulslde ft Richie from 
Underdog. They are all pretty much kept down 
to ana nage and are concise. All reduction* 
and layouta are superb, little ttdnn from 
the Plain Truth keep popping up. Also Is a 
small piece on Squat Or Rot, an lntanaa 
article about the corporations who are crush- 
ing ua, plenty of good photoe and my pal 
Adam throws In a few awesome pages. Thla 
'tine 1u.it kicks mines ass I Get ltl I 

To i Dear Jesus Famine 

P.O. Box lll*5 Cooper Sta. 
New Tork, H.T. 10276 



CONSTANT CHAHiE He* 2 $1 .00 

Decent offaot 'sin* from Rhode Island. 
Basic 'sine stuff plus Interview with Two 
Guys And Another Guy, Raw Deal, Patience 
■nd Insted. An alright read, but most of the 
material la old already. #3 ahould be out 
oy the time you read this. 

Toi Brian Simmons 

2028 West Main Rd. 
Wddletown, RI 0?fl^0 



RB-IGHITTON mo# 3 *1.$0 

Drew dishes out his beet Issue yet with 
a good range of bands) Verbal Assault, Slap- 
shot(yeahl), Brotherhood, Haywire, Vision ft 
Private War. Also, show reviews. Record ft 
tape reviews, many ads and outstanding photos, 
I'm still bothered by those full page ads, 
but, Re-Ignition 1» define to ly one of the 
heat f.insines around these days. A mutt. 

Toi Drew Traulsen 

1163 E. First St. 
Tuetln, Ca 926UO 



JMAJKIN' THROUGH tio0 ? $1.00 

Really alot better than the first one, 
even though that one was decent. Inter- 
views with Leeway, Token Entry, Bugout Society., 
ivln from Absolution, In Tour Face ft Bold. 
■■'..-!, intelligent record reviews, glad to see 
they dislike CD's. These guys are becoming 
vary productive nnd a threat to the -eat of 
ufl 'xlno irlltors in the N.T.C. areal Get a 
copy. 

Toi Bill Plorio 
P.O. Box 1011, 
Yonkers, H.T. 10701, 



Show 
Reviews 



Show Hevlew By David Koenig 

<-nUerdoe-Swia A two other bands I mlneedi 
CBIB'a Sept. 17, 19B9 

Thla ia not going to he ■ show review 
per se, but Just a piece on hew Underdog 
auck dick now. Van, I'll loll you RichU- 
Claims that Underdog's on a big indie be- 
cause they have u message to spread. Well, 
I wonder who ia going to tell that to all 
those trandy bratty glrla who acraam for 
Richie at showa. Jesus clirlat, thla was a 
fuekln' damn rock concert. Expensive 
ahirte, Ketnl buttons which cost $5.00, etc... 
So many losers show up for shews like thla 
it's patheic. Underdog user! to have alot 
of Integrity and were a decent hand to go 
sec. Now they are just another faceless 
baml ploying to a faceless crowd, !iy the w«y, 
their Lp on Caroline sucks too, so den'~ 
buy it and if you did, bum it! 



PUSIIEAD EXHIBIT at PSYCHEDELIC SOLUTIOH 
W. 6th St. N.Y.C. Aug. 30-0ct. ?!, I°a9 

I truly hated going to thla trandy 
hlDpy dead-head tourist trap, but my man 
Brian is worth it. The exhibit was set up 
Just like a conventional sort of art show- 
ing, otOy smaller. It wan really cool to 
eee the originals of bo many famous hard- 
core renderings. There was the Youth Rrl- 
gade skinhead against the wall. The Hls- 
flte beck of Die, Die My Darling picture, 
C.O.C. -Animosity, Cleanse The Raoterla. 
Other not so famous ones that were atlll 
quite lepreeslve ware Hirax-Rajring Vio- 
lence and something he did for Gestunk. 
Particularly the color pieces were In- 
credible to look at up close. Animosity 
1b auoh a meticulous, detailed piece of 
art, I never realised how many different 
methods and Btylee were used in It from 
Just looking at the album cover. If T 
recall correctly the Empty "loill* Vol.1 
was there as were a few old BY^/7 Seconds 
flyers. Of course, there were a few .Sep- 
tic Death ideces thrown on the wall for 
good measure. The cheeaieat stuff by far 
Puahead has ever done la the metallic* ahlt. 
I eat blesed beeeuee T*m not enetly areiy 
about the aforementioned band, but silly 
cartoon-like buete of ugly metslheeda 
really pale in eomperison with hie other 
work. There were also some medloore skater 
with a skull type pictures and a cliche' 
human fetus surrounded by evil deeds and 
twisted figures. 

Since I*m not an art oolleotor in the 
true sense of the term, I bed no under- 
standing of the outrageous nrloes for 
Puehead's different works. Some were prloert 
well armr «1,000. T know that Hr. Sohro- 
eder was quite prollfio and got little 
compensation for things like the RXDlolted 
skull-afhioh wee also on display-but It is 
still klnda weird to see the art for sale 
for so much money. The store had some 
posters of selected Puahead works far three 
or four bucks, so that wan cool. While 
Christina and I looked at the exhibit, 
eons vermin approached us selling shroome, 
he Just oouldn't understand when I told 
him to fuok off, stupid hippie drug addiot. 
That was the whole reason I didn't went to 
this Grateful Deed shrine in the flret 
place. -AiiAH 



UNDERDCG^OTZ CBOB's 9/17/89 

I thought this was gonna be the last 
.'.wis show. It showed some lndleationa of 
being Just that, but as it turns out they 
just ended up getting a new bass player 
later on. Anyways, Swls is a really solid 
band which I reoommend to all. The per- 
formance was beyond Inspirational, sand- 
ing chills up my spine. Lota of songs off 
the 12", some new ones which really kick- 
ed to be released an a new 12" very Boon 
and they oloaed with "Lie", which really 
got me going. Then they left off the 
stage, I expected everyone to give them an 
encore after a set like that. The New York 
crowd la so fucking fickle, they suck out 
loud, so Swla left after a auoh to brief 
experience. This was the first Una I had 
seen Underdog in about a year. I don't 
like the albu» at all, but I was ourious 
to see them anyway. So, as a trio they 
are pretty tight. They play too much om- 
barasslng reggae-type atuff for my tastes, 
and the whole power rock thing Just 
doean't aeem to work with the old songs. 
They also had "llnderdog-Summer *8°" stic- 
kers which looked like they belonged at a 
How Jersey shore oonoeeslon stand right 
next to the Led Zeppelin mirror-Just get 
three balls in thB hole and win one. 
-AI1AM 



SOUIHTER/HAIUCTS at ttix Fish 12/2/69 

Radlcts sounded very good, the sound 
system was crisp and clear, I really 
didn't expect that out of this little bar 
with no stage. Anyways, tho Rndiota are a 
real together groun but they Just didn't 
inspire me tonight. Slaughter played the 
moat brutal grungy set of hybrid hardcore 
punk filth I've experienced in a long time. 
Ralph's vocals sound like Extreme Holse 
Terror or Napalm Death at times. Huelcally 
the bands' got the Crnolf lx/Dlscharge 
thing going with more feedback and chaoe , 
and a few slow plodding Venorm/Sabbnth type 
parte. Nell, formerly of Nausea, sounded 
much like he did in Nausea which is def- 
initely a compliment. My favorite part of 
tho set 1b the Hcly Bible conblssoned with 
a swastika wavod by the band during one of 
the songs-ounk as hell mother fuokari 
Hopefully this will be the start of some- 
thing big for them. They also had cool 
patches- 2$4 for small ones and *1.00 for 
big ones. -ADAM 



'lilt ALHliIIIlT COK.UilUH OF CUUFiWIHT/ 
LOW MKA?0 io/fly ci*;u's 

Low neato in a wacky punie-or tent- 
ed hand. They were pretty entertaining for 
the few songa I caught, g«'eky, late ?0'» 
and shaved heads, sounding vory heavy hu:, 
slnglnt about goofy lenles-nr at leist 
presenting themselves in a goofy way. The 
only song I remember was about A10S and I 
don't think that's really a light subject. 
They are a decent band for what It's worth 
my friend. Just a little annoying. Than T 
prepared ayself for "0C* The lights were 
dimmed, weird string mueic came over the 
PA Tor about 5 minutes. The music atopped, 
there was silence Mien George Rush»e voice 
"I bring you a Under, gentler nation", 
and COS exploded into hardcore orgasmania. 
Like with Rollins, I was much more fam- 
iliar with all the material this time than 
previous times. I saw roc once with Kike 
Dean singing and once with Simon Bob Sina- 
ter, but thla was even better. Karl of 
Selaure fame takes cere of vocals. Wood- 
lead meed itUl carry out guitar and ill 1 IBM 
duties respectlvsly, and they have another 
guitar player and a baulat who la kind of 
a slouch, Karl sounds awsaoja* on vocals 
and his hair fits in perfectly. Reed drums 
like a mother fucker and Woody whines on 
hla axe *laok Sabbath atyle. Speaking of 
which, one of the new aonga was a total 
.tabbsth bite, but that 1 ! ok with aa 'causa 
Sabbath vu god. 

Soma fucking prick tried to knook Karl 
off the stage and other shitheads started 
fights with people for not dancing right as 
usual, the same neanderthals start It every 
week and T don't think they even know what 
band is playing. Well, maybe I don't need 
to go Into lt,you can read FHpsldee and 
MRR's from six years ago and hear the same 
complaint. Hack to COC, they played "What?" 
"Positive Outlook", "Poison Planet", off 
Eye For An "ye, "Holier", "Intervention", 
"Mad World" and Bomethlng else off Animos- 
ity, all of Technocracy and one or two 
new songs, plus a cover of "Ignorant Peo- 
ple" by Void, hy buddy John says they onlv 
played that many old songa because they 
were In New r ork. All I know la that *X>n 
has It all-correct politics, good looks 
and brutal music. -ADAM 



HENRY ROLLINS Maxwell's Early Oct. 09 

Not having seen the Rollins Band for a 
year and being much more familiar with the 
material now, I was pretty psyched for this 
show. It saeme Mr. Rollins will be the next 
big thing Judging by tlte crowd that night, 
hla new record contract with Chrysalis and 
the fact that the show sold out. Opening 
with "Do It" which destroyed, I expected 
more of the same. What I got was Bud Light 
and John Schorr presents Henry Rollins rock 
and roll ego odyeeey. The audience, espe- 
cially Sam he Pheeters, took groat delight 
In bathing In Rollins' holy sweat, urging 
Henry to dig deeper Into the realm of hard- 
ness, hate and rock muaic erection. -ADAH 
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THE BIO CLICKE'-KIICX RACISM by an... K. 

What a big fucking yawni Virtually 
everyone wlio does not ■■ ■( <■ ■■ to be a ric- 
iat haa uttered this meaningless phrase 
at one lime or another. Including myself. 
Ue ihout "Fuok RacisB" from the stage and 
return to our subtly racist worlds. Wh*n 
you comb to a new place end there ere a 
lot of blacks or hlspanios there, do you 
wnnder where the ehetto ls7 Do you think 
Indians and Asians are smarter? Are you 
uncomfortable with black nr"de, puerto 
rlcan pride, goy/lesblan pride, femin- 
ism? If you think you aren't racist lust 
because you have e black friend, or 
never say rdeger, or listen to Bob Mar- 
lay and near peace slims, think again! 
Many of our oarents grow uo in the peaoe 
and lore generation-*- were borne out of 
it for the noet part-end look at how 
racist thliure are today. And things can't 
Just can't be patched up with a little 
white liberal charity like the Johnson- 
era promised. If you are uncomfortable 
with the thlnga I've mentioned it's be- 
cause you're intimidated by the idee of 
people taking back what has been stolen 
frcai Uiem and kept locked away for In 
•cms caaee thousands of years by the pat- 
riarchy. Do you ware your red, white and 
bine ahltrag and shout -pride without 
prejudloe"? the nails wiped out the Jem 
under the swastika. If you wore a swas- 
tika it would be hard to got around the 
racist implications. So why la It okay 
to fly the flag under whloh afrleans war* 
enslaved, Indians ware obliterated, stu- 
dent* and dissidents were shotT the list 
of atroaltaa la unfortunately too long to 
alaborato upon. All the af ui amantlonad 
•vent* helped strengthen the power str- 
ucture of Anarloe the beautiful, madam 
lurka In dollar bills and the U.S. Tre- 
asury. Racism sets the tone for the Dame— 
enw and HapubJlGane. kaciam oreatas 
white flight and ghattosst and Boat of all- 
swburbla. Kaoissi reera its ugly head in 
the for* of the nelly Mem, Haw fork Post 
and Morton Downey, Jr. It surfaces in 
neighborhoods as erack, aonopollos on 
serrloM Ilk* snpsraarkata and gas otat- 
ions. It manlfaats ltaalf clearly a* tha 
young urban profeeslonel. And aany tines 
it takea the) ehape of a wall-intono-d 
but hasty kid yelling 'fuok Racism" 



FASHION DICTATES THE NORM By David Koenig 

Fashion. That word brings to mind young 
girls scampering around a mall to buy clothes 
to lnpress equally pathelc young hoys. 
Fashion. Dress to Impress. Whore the clothe* 
make the man. To fit in. Thank goodness 
fashion la only a part of our trendy society 
in which we live. Or is it? Doc Martins, com- 
bat boots, flight A leather Jackets, Fred 
i'erry shirts, sweaters A tennis shorts and 
all the rest of that shit la Just fl n trendy 
as the latest design of Guesa Jeans. 

Punk and hardcore has always had acme 
■fashion" oriented iMge and clothes, but 
over the years it has become ludlcrlous. A 
new kid comes to a show anymore and he/she 
has pretty much three choices, punk, skin or 
straight-edge or you don't fit in. I guess 
all this would not be that bad except all the 
clothing in question are very ejcpenslve. I 
always wondered why people would pay so much 
for a shirt or for footwear. Do you really 
need those 10 hole Doc Martins? I could 
soend the »7S more wisely. It's Just aa bad 
aa spending that much for a record. 

We really need to take a good hard look 
at it all and realise how useless the clothes 
and the look in. Tou have to atop worring If 
you look like a "69 boy" or if your hair Is 
nice and pointy on top. It is really a bunch 
of nonsense. We don't need all the fancy c 
clothes, what we need in to be a bit more 
real and be ourselves instead of trying to 
look like the next guy and wondering If 
"they" will accept me or not. 

EUndnato fashion ami you'll wear pract- 
ical A sensable clotliei plus feel free of 
mindless conformity. It la up to you to take 
the first step. 



OPINIONS AND FACTS 



golls and not 5 minutes later, I watched 
total factaa instituted in the moat lib- 
eral minded free thinking city in the coun- 
try (world?) In the form of soma who felt 
that violence translates front worda or vice 
versa. It seems) sobwj violent types felt 
that the right of freedom of speech waa 
something non— existent in this country they 
suppoaively love so much. This pathetic, 
miserable display of irony only reassured 
my fleeing hope that this world will gat 
out of its stagnations, conservative stats 
lte all too sadly oaught up in. Later how- 
aver (I odght as well reiterate- totally 
unrelated), I watched fireworks with fri- 
ends in Whites tone 1 1 "Fort Totten" and saw 
drunkeness, redneckness and some militar- 
istic, ame r leans blow stuff up, but did 
they stop and think what this holiday means t 
The fighting, the bloodshed of a revolution 
reduced to shlt,and I want to burn a flag 
in protest for a change in this country I Its 
fair to add that the act of burning is some- 
thing "patriots" can't seem to see past the 
physically of burning. "Its criminal", 
would they care to address, maybs why peo- 
ple want to burn flags, HAI What a contrast 
- hell in a handbasket to a military In- 
stallation. 



On a another notei (lee, for every- 
thing in the eoene positive nowadays their 
■mm to be a negative, thata not to hot. 
Things like Squat or HO", new hands, kids 
oaring, new 'sines and a separation from 
old-n-new are the thinga that keep me burn- 
ing inside, anticipating to coma downtown 
sveryweek either Just to buy records and 
hang out with friends or to see a band that 
really cares. The negatlvee are obvious, 
[lave 'a been telling you about that for 
three issues already! <Dy the way, I stand 
behind him tool) 

Well, my birthday passed by July ?uth 
and I got some bread and bought a bike. It 
was great, got to sec a little bit of the 
world (easier than walking) and when you 
ride, you observe things, peoplo etc. and 
I'm sorry to break it to you but there ia 
..lot of people out there who are shells no 
oompaasion, totally engulfed In matorial 
things and monetary supplements, buy- 
sell- rat rece types bump your shoulder ft 
growl. Never stopping to smell the roses. 
DO I have tn scroam, "I'm human, I carol" 
I may be asking an impossibility but we 
are living life! ! 1 Live it in Importances, 
you shells of the department stores could 
be human if It wasn't prepackaged fo«- you?? 
Could youl!???? It certainly seens before 
any movem e nts could be started to see threw 
some much needed change, we could at least 
be human! 

THERE'S A FEELING HUT CCKKS 
FROM DKKP INSID* A FIRE 
GROWING HOTTER AS LIFE 
QOES BY. I AM SWALLOWED 
CONSUMED BY MY 

YOUTH KKRAOE 
FOR AIL MY LIFE 

YOUTH ENRAGE 

eLife'o Blood 1986 

I'M RUW1IN0 OUT OF TIME, I'M CUT OF 

STEP AND CLOSING DOWK AKD NEVER 

SLEEP FOR WANTING HOURS THE 

EMPTY HOURS OF GREED AMD USE LESSLY 

AIHAYS THE NEED TO FESL AGAIN THE 

REAL RELIEF OF SOMETHING MOHE 

THAN MOCKKRY IF 0NL v I COULD 

FILL MY HEART WITH UVB... The Cure 1989 



SU:*HEH By Rich Oliver 



6, pretty ooolj summer '87, 

I neato hung out with alot of cool dudes | 
summer 'ftfi, sort of a departure, I wis kind 
of in Isolation, but it turned out to be 
cool (the ■'-!:■ were planted for an Idea to 
do a farulne)... AAAAH, here we are summer 

' '89. Enough history, summer »89l What a 
summer it was, interesting to say tha least. 
I realised alot about myself, others and saw 
a bunch of movies to boot! The summer trad- 
itionally starts with the fjth and that ia a 
story in itself. The nost gradlfying feel- 
ing one could have Is seeing something from 

i all aspects and angles and that's exactly 
what happened. Could you imagine seeing 
"Independence Day" from both spectruma of 
the stratosphere- total opposite endsl So 
anyway this tall kid calls me up and says, 

I "Let's go to the pro-flag burning rally at 
Washington Square Park Just to check it 
out". O.K. by me, 1 replied. Wo go (he's 
lata as usual), so I stand and gawk at the 



Uy Adam Nathanson 

Sundays were my day off when I worked 
at the appliance store 11th grnilo. About 
once evory month nr so I got together en- 
ough money and transportation to get Into 
New York. My friends and I overlooked the 
crowded uncomfortable oxponslve, Ineffi- 
cient, inconvenient bus ride from the 
suburbs. Our lack of subway knowledge had 
us getting off at W. «th St. to go to 
CBGli'B. The only record stores weknow how 
to got to were Bleeker Bob's and Tower. 
Anyway, we got off the train and headed 
for 'he show. We were late and missed the 
first band. The second band sucked out 
loud. Everyone piled in for the last band. 
I, with work boots, dirty Jeans, acne, 
TSOL shirt and crew cut, va3 ready to slam 
my brains out. The set started after some 
scary Clookwork Orange ambient music. I 
was already winded from all the cigarette 
smoke and drenched frois the sweat of feel- 
ing Intimidated in a crowded dark room. 
At the first sound of amplified bass gut- 
tar, I tried to atart the traditional 
suburban slam circle. I wasn't getting 
anywhere though I tried to uphold my own 
brief heritage for about throe or four : 

songs before someone's elbow accidentally/ 
purposely snapped and clicked at the mid- 
dle of my face. I turned around and puah- 
d headlong through the crowd to the back 



whore I touched my face to discover lo£ 
of dark red stuff. Connie gave me an Ice 

| pack. I sat down by the pool table to 
enjoy tha rest of the show. I got a few 
pats on the back and smerks sitting there 

I with pink ioe and a reddish brown shirt. 

| After the show and three more ice packs, 
I mat up with my buddies, one of whom In- 
sisted he could set my nose bone back 
real easy, though It could hurt for Just 
a leoond. He'd done it many times before 

| on himself. I declined but maybe I 
shouldn't have. On the subway back to 

I '-on Authority, I realised my nose was 
bant like the letter C across my face. At 
Lbs bus gats, I called ay parents while 
a* waited. It waa about 9t30pa but I woks 
up my father because he was working alot 
of overtime. 



He said maybe hat oottld get my mother to 
bring me to the laarisaj room. So then we 
bmllshltsd and malted for the bum. My tri- 
end Dennis had drann a swastika est his 
Jeans, I asked bin why and ha said, ■ i 

mo, booa a ea It looks cool". I prenptly 
responded with an appoprlat* quota from 
"Heal Punks rank Off*. The whole ban rids 
back I was reeling my swollen wound. If I 
moved tha bridge of my aose with ay fin- 
gers, I oould hear the bona* grind and 
pop, but it resOly didn't hart. My parents 
ware going to bo pissed and possibly not 
lot no go to ah own or sonothlng. I de- 
cided to tall than I una hit In tha face 
by tha door walking oat of tha olub. 
Months earlier whan I had a broken ooilar- 
bona, thay bad forbid an to go to any shows. 
so I "slept over Chaals'a house" alot. The 

m hospital which plokad me up by my 
amplts in tha emergency roon with a bro- 
ken collar bona told as I didn't have a 
broken nose. A seoond opinion had aa tak- 
ing a day of f from school and work to have 
ay nasal passage unblocked and bones str- 
aightened. When I woke ap, blood was trick- 
ling down the back of ay throat. I threw up 
about two gallons of blood Into a bed pan 
minutes later. Another broken nose and a 
few chipped and loose tooth later, hardoorr 
/punk la still A0X, thumbs up with ma. 



Well, fuck you, asshole. I live here, 
but 1 don't luvc it, i.., ■■..„■■■■ it lute* mo. 

I am slandered in the media It's not 
even funny. 

There are so many goddamn groups pro— 
Judice against me for th<- way I am. There 
| are so many lien spread about me and my 
community. 

Just for the record, gays & lesbians 
are not child aolootera, many have long- 
standing A loving relationships, are not 
a "weak race- (get a life, buddy), did 
not atart AIDS (that's gov't chemical 
warfare A blo-engineerlne), are not antl- 
femlly, do not hate women (aa lesbians 
do not hat* men) and are not any one 
thing. Oaya A lesbians are, and i- ./■ 
have been in all aectlona of society, in 
all races, of all colore and types, of all 
religions, we are everywhere. We are your 
brothers a sisters, your mothers A fathers 
I your aunts A uncles, your friends A acqu- 
altanoas, in He Donalds A In Saks Fifth 
Avanne, In bookstores A homeless on the 
streets. We are doctors A lawyers A bank 
tailors A chauffers A stock clerks. If 
everyone cans "out of tha closet", damn 
J you would really be surprised. 

. Wo cannot bo oatagorlBad, we will not 

I ho bald down for ouch longer, we are gay 4 
I ws aro not goirsr away, ahnos, so wake the 
I funk up. 

Prejudice is prejudice, hats is hsto. 
Don't Judge as for ay sexual orletatlon. 
Hoaoaexualltv Is not a choice. It Is not 
an alternative. Ufa stop the bullshit 
garbage. Don't be a nasi bigot. 

If you love thla counrty, fine. I'm 
(Lad you enloy it. This counrty has be- 
trayed aa. I live here, but I don't love 
It A I'm not leaving. You better get used 
to me. 

•Faggot" Is "Miggsr" la "sole" ia 
"kike". Mind your language. 

Bad Brains are nails. 

Peace- if yoo can handle it, 

MIICB BULLSHIT 



0*y LlboraUon, or Why I Hot a Patriot 
By Mike Bullehlt 

I an in a ecamunltr that la under 
siege from all aldas and this government, 

ay "couiitjyaan-, tha media, don't give a 
fuok. 

In half tha states, plus the capital 
olty of this "free" nation, what I do in 
my bed with my boyfriend is ILLEOAL. As 
in "Prohlbitod". As in "Jail Term". Do you 
call that fucking free?! I don't. Entrap- 
ment of gay men occurs all across this 
"great" land. Entrapment moans an under- 
cover cop aakos a pass at you, you walk 
away, A he arreata you, your name Is In 
all the papers, with your picture A add- 
ress. Your life Is fucked. You lose your 
Job, your family, your homo. The End. 

Lesbian A Oay youth account for JO* 
of all suicides. Why is that, anyway? 
People learn at a young age the words 
•faggot" and "queer" and how they are bad, 
A gay or lesbian youth must grow up a- 
fraid of being "found out" or they could 
lose their friends, be disowned by their 
fasoMtos, bo Dhyslcally harrased (or kill- 
ed) or verbally abused. It makes one con- 
fused A it doesn't give one good self- 
esteem. One grows up afraid and I don't 
think anyone should. Just because their 
senial orientation is different than what 
is considered normal. (Just what the ruck 
ia "Normal", anyway?) A gay or lesbian 
youth has no one to look up to, no Deer, 
no nositive reinforcement affirming their 
humanity. Sodetv doesn't give a fuck. 

Even If I loved this country A wanted 
to fight for It, to give my llfo if need 
be, I could not, aa I'M prohlbitod from 
Joining the Armed Forces (ie-Army, Navy, 
Air Force, Marines A Coast Guard). Legal 
dlscrlminAtion aealnst M is the rule of 
the day. 

Oays are prohibited from immlgratlwr 
to the United States. No way? Yes way I So 
much for Ellis Island or angels Island. 
So much for the "American Dream". Your 
dreama denied me, because of who I love. 
My love to you la "wrong", is "disgusting" 
"perverted". 



CDs SUCK By David Koonig 

wowl Ufa go got the now Slok Of It 
AH CD. It's so oooll How about that Youth 
Of Today/Bold CD, it'a only 112.99. Wowl 
Extra tracksl Coolll Damn, you peoplo who 
buy CDs are getting sorewad up tha ass and 
you don't even know it. If the point of 
CDs is to olean up all the noise A hlaa on 
a reoordlng, why would you buy a CD of a 
hardcore record when hardcore la noise. 
Boy, those guitars sound so orlop and clear) 
If they were supposed to be like that In the 
first place, they would have been. Hardcore 
and CDfl do not ntlxi 

The price of CDs is also funny and I 
think the Indies are also picking up on that 
fact. Do you reallis that the manufacture 
of CDs Is much leas than Lps? Plain faatl 
Originally, on major labels, when CDs first 
carni out, bands did not get paid extra from 
CDs sales. The record aompanlee push CDs 
because It la extremely profitable. They 
make up all this bullshit on how much better 
they are and all A cash in. Now that this 
praotloe has been plokad up by the Indies, 
they too can enjoy the same benefit. Hardcore 
recordings were always baaed on vinyl, tapes 
and occailonaXLy, Floxl discs. It does not 
belong on CD. ''Inmaged" on CD? I What the 
fuck71? 

The bottom line is that CDs are a part 
of this lame American society that's forced 
down your throat. Records ARM better and 
more practical. Buy them and not CDs. 




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Interview by David K., Chira R., Prod A. 
and various members of the studio aud- 
ience. 

I want to Introduce you to one of the 
brightest new bands on the N.Y.C. scene, 
Cttlgen's Arrest. They were Interviewed 
in front of ABC-NoRin on a vst cold lk>c. 
9th, 1989. Cold and very nolay. Heed On... 

IMOi Alright, tell mo who you aro and what 
you play In the band. 

pati drums, Janlsi guitar, Daryl; vocals fc 
Joei baas. 

LMQ, Why doe* Cltisen'a Arrest exist? 

Oi Ma are all friends and enjoy what we do. 

Ji Why do we exist? 

Joe i la till o a band history question? 

DDi Tea. 

J i Ok, ther m thla guy. Jay, lives on 
Long Island and I met hi* one day that Our 
Gang played WSYU. I seen him then at CB'e, 
and I'm talking )» hlia, oane up in con- 
versation that T played guitar. Ha was 
starting this band and needed a guitarist 
and I said •Ok, I'll play". Preoticed at 
Olant the next week, Daryl was playing the 
arums, Joe Mas playing bass and had this 
guy. Kike singing. That was like a year 
ago, went through a sllllon iBsmtoer changes, 
wound up with Joe on baas, Pat on drums, 
Daryl singing and here we -re. 

IHOi Why the name Citisen'a Arrest? 

Ho real reason. It soundsd nice, y'know, 
you don't have to have a great big neanliur 
behind your name. Aa long as your songs 
ssy soMthlng. It's a Negative Yl song. It 
sounds nice, I like it. It stuck. 

DC what do i 



.WSXfi 



> of your songs deal with? 

in Assorted topics, from the enviornment 
to Ilka nuclear war, poverty, all types of 
stuff, also, generic topics, women and shit. 
Thlngs that are Important to us, things 
that bother us. Certain ideas and stuff. 
That is what our songs are about. 



IMOi What do you think of the current state 
of the «.Y.C. hardcore scans and how do 
you think it could be changed? 

Joei Wall, now It is hardar to see shows, 
since CB's stooped doing their matinees, 
but, I wasn't too pleased with the type 
of kids showing up anyway. It was get- 
ting too much on the violent aide. Y'kivw 
boneheada and whatever. There is alot of 
good bands out there now, it's alright I 
guess. 

Pi The new breed of bands like. ..I think 
there Is something new starting ur again. 
It breaks off into sections afte<- awhile, 
all of a sudden you have a whole bunch of 
angry bands, straight-edge hands, there is 
always "neor two bands who try to corns out 
of it. I think CI tl ton 'a Arrest and Go! 
.ire two bands who trying to cone out of 
that whole stereotyping of bands. Like 
thla band and Go|, everybody In it is dif- 
ferent, fou have like a etralt^it-edge ve- 
getarian, have a aahhh...vpolnting to Dnryl) 
I don't want to any what he in . (laughter > 
A regular guy "vor hero. Anrt Janls, who's 
a achool-goer, ha,, his own political opin- 
ions. We don't classify mirselsen na any- 
thing specfic. 

Joei It's like you had kids showing up to 
G&iB's who wero Just looking for a fight 
and that was totally wrong. Now t!iat CD'3 
•j topped doing their matinees, you have to 
look harder for the shows and hopefully 
those people who would show up ."Just to 
fight won't t;o to these shows. That'll be 
a bright apot. 

IMOi l» you think these ahows, like at 
AlfC-Ho Rio tonight, are goixi things? 



Pati But If things like thla **el over- 
exposod inrt the bono-heads show ip, you 
gotta nuve and run somewhere else. 

Meanwhile, there la a scuffle across 
the street between a couple of neighbor- 
hood people. They are getting very loud. 

In Weren't you Just waiting for a gunshot 



Ittlt Ytxih, but that kind of shit happens 
all the Lime so don't worry about it. Hoy, 
Kred, come on do you have tiny vjuestiona? 



Pr«.li What are your Influences? 

Pt That's on original question. 

Di Going from old hardcore, old boston, to 
industrial. I listen to a wide variety of 
music so I can't say what dlroetly influ- 
ences me. 

Pi Well, I'm into alot of industrial, but 
I'm basically your Verbal Assault, Dag 
Meaty lover, to be specific, alot of ool- 
lege rook. 

Joei I'd say a big influence on me would 
be the Rfflgies and mayba Jerry's Kids, 
that influence ma. 

Ji You name it, you name It and it influ- 
enced me. 

Joei Brery thing? 

J i Inflatable children especially you can 
hear it In our soundl (laughter) 

Chris i Has being in a band changed you in 
any way? 

Joei Yeah, It changed me In alot of ways, 
I was really getting stagnant on the hard- 
core scene. There was nothing going for me. 
Now that I'm In a band, I get to oommurd- 
cate with people outalde of NY, meet same 
real people and find out what real hard- 
core la all about. Also, have fun in the 
band. 

rredi (directed toward Pat) What happened 
to Our Gang? 

Pi Well, there was a certain member of the 
band who did alot of back-stabbing, alot 
of the usual stuff that causes a bend to 
break up. There was another band that he 
got Into and it caused the band to break 
up. Trashed the record and stuff, it was a 
rough situation. 



IMDi It is not going to ca 



i out' 



Pi Ho. We are going to sell a tape of the 
record. 



Fredi What is cooing uo in the future for 
you guys? What are you going to be doing? 

Di Well, we have two tracks on Sam frcai 
Venus label BVaCUATB Records. He U puttlne; I 
out a vinyl comp., two actus on there. 
Sometime in the spring, oum e.p. on Draw 
Blank Reoords should be eondng out. It's 
Matt & Dave's label from Infest. We are 
going to record on Deo. 29th. 

After a bunoh of nonsense and quest- 
Ions like "Do you have groupies?", I ask 
Frudi 

IHOi What else Fred? What can wn ask these 
guys? It's gottlng nowhere) 

After more silence and confusion, I 
lower uffself and sayi 

IMDi Let's get In acne soelfic topics, 
let's get roally oenoriof Do you think 
straight-edge has died in N.Y.C. or what? 

Joei Well, I think the trend part of It 
has dlod, but, those who are really true 
and who had It in their hearts, they held 
on. [t has definitely died down. Those 
who were alone; for the ride. 

Ji The band wagon burn. 

,'cei Yeah, the bandwagon burnt 

Fmdi What was your fi"-at show? 

Di Well, we olayed in this little place 
in Wlddletown, H.Y. called the Rock Pal- 
ace with Go i ft •ngrv Societv. We aot \*i 
lollara and we w*re the worst... 

Joei Wo didn't exactly eo so well. 

Chrlsi What nth»r bands wero you in? 

D: Th* most recent band that I was in was 
True Colors, but Chuck the guitarist writ 
off to colleea. Louis, the bass player 
fucked up True Colors the same way as the 
guy did in Our Gang. I have more reason 
to be mad at Lou because he was soiling 



■ lapea, our demo and making money un 

of it, behind our backs. How I rind out 
people have our tapes and shit. We weren't 

I happy with it. I've been In a bunch of 

I bands. 



IMOi Why do you choose certain cover songs 
that you do? (So far they doi DYS's "Oirl'a 
Got Limits-, YOT's -Expectations" & Red C 
"Pressure's On") 

Joei Basically, we are agreeing with what 
the bands ware saying. Moat of all, they 
are bands A- songs Uiat we like. 

Di The Bed C cover was kind of a last 
minute thing, wanted to learn a cover be- 
fore we played a show. We learned that 
real quick and we have stuck by that one. 
In do i couple of others, but we want to 
learn a couple more in the future. Also, 
we are coming up with alot of new songs. 

J i A different cover each show. 

FTedt What happened with Ted, the first 
singer? 

J oat He went back to college at Norte Dame 
and is in a '?0e cover band. There is no 
bitterness, Ted is really oool. He sang 
oca song at our second show. 

IMOi What do you think of bands who sell- 
out? 

Joei I think when bands play hardcore mu- 
sic- it isn't meant for the bl* labels. 
They lose their integrity. I think like 
bends that go on the major labels then 
get tagged a metal band, they are not a 
hardcore bend and are losing their int- 
egrity and -hat they alng: about. It 
Just isn't there. 

Ji Well, I think if you make a oouple of 
bucks on a record that will only help you, 
put it back Into the band, more people 
will hear you. If you don't change at all. 
It la not a real big difference. There 
are bands who never were hardcore that say 
oool things, nobody busts on then for belne; 
on a big label. I would love to play music 
fox a living, that would be incredible. 



Di I don't think it is the band's fault for 
selling out, ' ; 'a the label's who get thesa 
bands and flash money in their faces and 
stuff, therr are impressed. After playing 
in a band for a long time you want to move 
co, instead of the same rut you've been 
In. Ion want to make same money. 



Joei It is ridiculous that these bands 
are gettiiw sign** to 5 record deals by 
these major labels. How can you maintain 
their Integrity whan they have that 
hanging over their bauds'. They bare to 
put put so many reoords by a certain lime- 
That -a not hardoore. 

Di Rot to mention any names but, I saw the 
Siok Of It All Lp on sal* at the rathnark 
In my town. In the middle of fucking no- 
where, it's kind of funny. 

Pi If « bend la singing about not selling 
out and if they sign up for a record, then 
that's a sell out. I don't think Tooth Of 
Today has sold out because I never once 
heard them talk about it. It depends on 
what your philosophy to really determine 
what a sell oat la. If Life's Blood went 
on a big label, then that would be a sell- 
out. 

IHOi I think .originally, the bands In 
question would be Youth Of Today and War- 
sane. 

Pi Well, Wanone did kind of preach again- 
st ttv*., in a way they did sell out. *run*t f 
forget the struggle. Don't forget the 
streeto", they forgot the atreete. 

Joei They are pretty much a bunch of hypo- 
crites, they're singing about •Don't for- 
get the struggle", while their label la 
putting them out as a "Metal-core" band. 

IPOi How do you guys feel about racism? 

Di It sucks, I hate racism. 

P: Aatde from the typloal answer that it 
sucks, racism is In alot of different 

places now, alot of racism that Is giving 




" toward whites ^hUesK^^iiT, , 
toward blacka, it la not oven racism any- 
more. It's lust lute, a misunderstanding 
oT Judging one's ineidee. Just judging 
by color.., 

Ji Hy girlfriend's black... 

Iii K> llttia broth.r just happens to be 
Mack and this girl's parenta wouldn't 
lot him go out with her because he 
black. 




Joai l think It la totally Idiotic that, 

no mattar if yon are black or white, tha 
I human race atartad In Africa and wo were 
I all black at ona t*me. It ia Hka...T'm 
1 fat, someone 'a sklnnv, eamecne'a black o«- 
I white, it'a stupid, peonle ere people. 

ine*e la too much focua on one gronp 
I being higher than the other. So if you 
think about 1 i. the total goal la unity, 
no matter how cliche that sounds. Laat 
year, it wee like whites want to be aup- 
1 erior to blaoka, now you hear alot of 
I blaoka wanting to ba auperlor to whiten. 

They are the enenj' and everything. We 
I hare to gat it together. 

: Tou b»ve no choice in what color you 
| are, ao what ia the difference? 

Di We have two aonga dealing with racism, 
"Start Again" ia a more auttla approaoh 
to tha laaue. Our aoog "Raoe War" la aay- 
ing "hat la going to happen in the future 
I If we don't start making a ohange. 'Race 
Wax" la about we •re going to at a rt kill- 
ing each other In the atreeta, it'a orasy. 

Soma adsh-aash of racism talk leads to 
Janl* wanting to talk about Af"f Iradtive 
I Action. 

Ji I Think It's kind of degrading to the 
| minority. It la kind of implying that 
they oovlda't gat the job without that. 
In iom oum, If yon oca* freei a horr- 
ible piece and no education, then it 
could be neeaaoary. Oenerally, it'a get- 
ting better on both aides. IT'a not -The 
Spirit Of Aaarloe". Somebody better qual- 
ified Might not get the job because of 
this. It's tough to say that's right then. 

IHOt What do you think of the drug laaue 
in America and how do you think it can be 
solved? 

Joe i My personal belief la that they should 
1 legalise drugs, the thing ia people are 
getting killed over what la going on. Peo- 
ple are k ill i n g people for annoy for drags. 
| Tou iihould legalise it and try to find a 
way to control It, 



Hot like, don't legalise ereok or anything 
like that, pot should be legalised, people 
era getting killed over the cricee of 
theee> things. Prohibition on drugs is 
just not working, just like with alcohol 
in the '.■<*. 

IMOi But, do you feel if they legated 
druga that organised orlaa would Juat find 
a one thing else to push on Jjaarloa? 

Joai Well, thay already have. Organised 
prositution ft gaabling. Thay probably woulcj 
nose on to aosstthlng else. T ou'd have to 
croaa that bridge when you cone to it. 

Dt I think if they legalised druga the 
novellty of it would wear off and all tha 
oraok addiats would fade eway. 

Joe i Another thing is that, I think that 
they should giro needlee to herion addicts 
because that la s big problem with the 
passing of A.I.D.S.. I think hosiptala 
ahould give the* needles, so that thay 
stay healthly to themselves. They are juat 
supporting their habit, they are oeople 
too. 

Di I think It is kind of obivioua that 
the governsMuit is Involved with the drug 
trafflklng in the United States. Buah Is 
letting Norelga to sell hie coke hore, 
people are apanding their money. 

This K«yi How do you think hardcoro has 
changed since it hae started? Do you think 
it has became better or worse? 

D: It has chanced alot for me, it's leas 
friendly. T used to go to alot of shows 
and knew alot of people and shake hands. 
Now you go to shows, atand in a corner, 
you don't want to be involved In it. 

Joe i That's true. It has been getting 
pretty bad, if you look at someone the 
wrong way, they breath down your back, 
but, I think It Is changing now. It's 
obivioua like at the show today, there 
w-ts no problsme whatsoever, just the type 
of kids that were showing up. 

Ji Juat like that Downtown horuit ahow, 

P: What happened six years ago, will hap- 
pen in another six years. It'll got big 
■'■ exploited... 



Joei A ahow 11Kb this la for the kids who 
love hardcore, ones who come for o show, 
not the ones who aome for a fight. 

Di I think hardcore haa proireaoed and re- 
gressed and stagnated, but NY hardcore I 
can't really Bay that much for it. 

IHOi If their was one band that you could 
bring back for one ahow, who do you think 
it would be? 

Di Siege. 

Joe i Probably Negative Approach. 

Ji I don't know, maybe Crucifix. 

Pi Hiror Throat probably, raybo nag Naatv. 

IMOi Well, guya I'm not too productive 
with theae questions, it is your inter- 
view, we can talk about anything you like. 

Ji free the Baltic States! (laughter) No 
really, it haa gone too far, all these 
changes. 

IhTJi That's a good question. What do you 
think about the present changes in Bast- 
ern *urope? Do you think it la better? 
Cnr do you think it looks good now, but, 
probably will not last. 

Ji Well, I'm skeptical. I was in UviU 
thla swear and It Is anaslng. A year or 
two ago, thay couldn't raise their own 
flag, couldn't sing their own national 
anthem. Mow thav are having deaoetrntlona, 
I fot to partlelpate in one, and they are 
being listened to. The ofaengee are hap- 
pening. The Soviet government is still, 
wall, bringing in all these Russians Into 
ths Baltlfl States to water down tha popu- 
lation and try to kill their culture. It** 
stupid, they hare to giva than their free- 
dom. They are so different, even their 
language la different. Thay have been 
oppressed for so long, it has got to end. 

Joai I think it is great what la going on 
in like tha Baltic States, and all around 
the world pretty much. The Idea of Comm- 
unism isn't so bad, but, what the Soviet 
Union and governments like China have is 
like a bastardised version of the origin- 
al idea. 



It is totally for the people in power. It 
la not for the peopla. It's faolat. It's 
not like rrena miss ever was. It's for 
whoever la in power. 

Pi All I know la that theyare taking walla 
down over there and putting them up over 
hers, that la only one way I could explain 
it. 

Di I really don't know too much about it, 
ao I can't really say anything, as far aa 
Uvlta being free, I think it ia kind of 
ahitty that thay gave them their own flag. 

J i I saw this volleyball game over there 
and It was llks the US verua Soviet Union. 
They played the American anthem, raised 
the flag, played the eoriet anthem and 
raised their flaa*. Than they ralaed this 
third flag, Iwaa like -What's this?" Call 
ma ignorant, but, I didn't know what It 
was. They gave the Baltic States their own 
flag and anthem, and what tha hall are the 
worda to that? "Thank you for oppreeaing of, 
and kicking us over."? 

Ottoi How do you foal about fur? 

P: I think the other guya In the band are 
against it as far as I know, I marched in 
the parade and atuff. I'm Into everything 
about it(Anti-fur), this whole animal 
freedom. Aa far aa fur goes, fur-free rall- 
ies jre trying to get people who have know 
Idea about leather * fur are trying to get 
a whole now thing going and it'a good. 
Fur's wrong, then they are going to move or. 
to meat, ohicken a poultry. Hopefully, it 
will start a whole new revolution In the 
country. Hope It will accept it. 

Joei I think vegetarianism and the whole 
thing ia a great idea, but, I feel it's 
becoming Just like atalght-OTlge is, A 
trend in the hardcore scene now. I don't 
think It's a bad trend, it'a a positive 
trend, maybe Juat llks straight-edge ia. 
It'a not the same aa atemlght-edge aa in 
"veryone lookn tho aare. 



Everyone's so centric, all in their little 
clicks. T think vegetarianism is more per- 
sonal, hut, I ilefinatoly think it is a 
trend. 

Fredi How do you feel nbout the krishnaa 
in the hardcoro scene? 

1H0: What do you feel about religion? 

Jr I believe in god, define tely, but T 
never found any church that, they don't 
all work. AH make good pointy, hut, they 
are all bullshit. 




Joe i I believe in a higher power, but 
don't belong to any organiied religion. 
It's s corporation like Me Donalds. I 
think it's a corporation. They are looking 
to make money. They turned the bible a- 
round in anyway to auit their needs. One 
of the ten oossoandmenta aaya, "Thou Shalt 
Not Kills, but, it's all right to kill 
in war. That's what certain religions aay, 
that'a wrong. 

Pi It's an inns'- emotion, that you don't 
have to get together at a synogue or be- 
tween some marble walla and give some monoi 
to someone you don't even know because you 
have an inner feeling ofsomethlng. It la 
aomething you have apodal to yourself. A 
belief that you shouldn't have to pay any- 
body for. 

Fred i What about kriahnaa in particular? 
Ray Cappo7 

Ji I don't care what Ray Cappo does, I 
don't know hi*. I've been to the temple, I 
saw him there. I talked to him, he didn't 
seem too much like a freak to me or any- 
thing. Their religion I have three things 
that bother ma. It's aexist, their is no 
room for individuality and no room for 
like love other humans, and that's stupid. 
I nean. They hare aome good points about 
reincarnation, . . 

Di It'a okay, I think Joining the krishnaa 
ia like joining the Hanson family, the 
aoonlea and a hit. 



Prodi What about gay righuAomosexuallty? 

Ji I mean gay Is gay, I don't see what the 
big deal la, what do you think you are 
going to do ohange them or something. What 
la the matter? People are going to live 
the way they want to live. 

Joe: I think it's another wall that people 
have built up over time and I think it is 
something, to ooln a phrase, to be broken 
down. To deny them rights juat because the<j 
like someone in their own sex is no reason 
to turn them away and say that they don't 
have the righto like everybody olse. I don't- 
see what's the dlffersnoe if they like 
someone in either sea. It'a their choice. 
I think homophobia is peopla who are Just 
weak-minded Indlviduala who cannot grasp 
that idea. 

Pi I think that gay la great. I'm not pers- 
onally into it, I don't want to be Into it 
and if soma guy came up to me, I 'd be real- 
ly scared. It has happened and it'a not 
a funny thing. You can't do nothing about 
those failings, there la nothing wrong 



*lth It. It shouldn't go as far aa, any 
kind of male rapes, that'a not going to 
help the situation at all. I don't know. 

IMDi Let's wrap this up, because Oo! ia 
coming on. Final constants from every- 
body! 



Jooi Thanks to Rric, Matt & Dave for lis- 
tening to as, liking what we play and hope • 
fully releasing our 7" 

Pi Free the nrlaonars of vanity, don't buy 
fur. 

Di Thanka to Matt from Infest, my brother, 
ay mom ft dad, Janla, Joe ft Pat for lotting 
ms sleep owar endless amounta of timea and 
snore. Thanks for the interview, Dave I 

Joei Read In Hemory Of... ft Right Trash. 

IHOi finished? 

A I.: ; PINISHKDl I > 

To write or get the domoi W.OO 

Janis Cakaru 

701 Carroll street 

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TAPE TRADING 

the building blocks of communication 



ABSOLUTION demo 
ABUSED demo '82 



Tape trading. I honestly wonder where 
hardcore or underground music would have 
went if people didn't trade tanes of re- 
cords , demos & live recordings. Would it 
have lasted as long as it has already? 
Hard to say. People with a few tapes, over 
a period of time can amass a large supply 
of music with little cost to them. Tape 
trading is a world-wide occurance and allows 
people to hear what la Roinp. on in all the 
scenes: big and small. Tape trading can 
provide bet.er distribution than any major 
label could ever dream, fn this artcle, I 
Just wish to [irrsont a i>t< idoaa that make 
tape tnai.ni: successful I'm not a saint, 
gone '>'■ tl-l ' • '..Idolln^a ' »;ho'7i here, I've 
not nlvaya follower 1 tor. well. I'm .guilty 
of -licking a fn-; p?o.lc over, 'jut all in 
all, ';;;at you arj "bout to re a* 1 , 'I 1*5. i.-l 
makes tape trading -ircple fir easy, '/ith a 
li-tle time and efl'ort, you mi^ht find 
yoUTSQl* rolling in cassette tanes. 



AWARE I ??T 1/9/86 



■■u.iAf. ....' 



i) s/aluat; mi,: vii'j sunt 

You can st->;-t tauo trading with just 
a handful of tai;on. It always h'dps to have 
ono desirable tapo, though. I don't roB«l« 
ber what taoes started ma off, but, it wa3 
probably dw.es of local bands, such as Sick 
Of It All, and Cripnled Vouth. Get every- 
thing together and write it all down on 
paper. 



BORN WITHOUT A FACE "Freakshow" tape 

BREAKDOWN demo '87 

BREAKDOWN Anthrax 10/9/17 (crowd) 



2) KAKIM3 Ti^ LIST; 

The list of what you have is vory im- 
portant in the tape trading circle. You can 
organize this any way -. u feel, but always 
incl';d-t the following! Band's name, what it 
is (d«'-o, record | live sho", interview, otfl 
• ••), if a livo show, t-y to ».rite the date 
fii place if known. Dates arc also good on 
demos. Quality is important to some and not 
to others. f*ty basic things to write are 3B 
(soundboard) or crowd (when a show is taped 
in tho audience). Optional things to with a 
list are: tyjiod or handwritten, alohabeti- 
cal or Just one running listing, etc... It 
is all up to you, decide for yoursolf. 



CHO-MIOS "Ago Of Quarrel" demo 

CRO-MAOS CBOB'a July '86 (Record release) 

qtO-WUGS 11ttsb\uvh fl/6/86 



3) (tOAtJT? cks *:13 „ i/,r:cc.i; 

Try not to put any tapos < 
that are r.udtiy or trlth extremely low levels. 
It really sucks to send out pood or decent 
quality tapes, then ^et shitty ones in re- 
turn. Sometimes it ia unavoidable, like 
when somebody doesn't clean the heads of 
their tape decks and so on. Tapes recorded 
in or before 19-lu, ask about the quality 
because most of the time, they have gone 
through many generations. Sxaraplo: The SSD' 
DSMO that has been going around is really 
shitty quality. I've have received it so 
far from threo different people and all 
are the sxme. 



EXCEL Vet's And. Calif. V'li/86 (crowd) 
KXTREMK NOISB TERROR demo #1 ,#2 
EXTREME N0IS8 TTOROR loads, U.K. !i/l6/86 



FALSE LIBERTI "The Zoo Is free" demo 
FALSE LIBERTI Pine St. Theather, Wash. 

10/19/86 
FALSE PROPHETS WFMD niT. 2/13/86 
FALSE PROPHETS CBGB's 2/l/87 (crowd/good) 
FAR BACK DEEP CBGB's 7/20/86 (crowd) 
Fear Itself damn '86 



111 !-'AKE SHI! . "' H CL3AN Yt)"R TAP] 

This i3 ono of -he major factors in 
quality loss. Kaka sure ynu have plenty of 
cleaning fluid i round if you think you'li 
be making 'lot of tapes. For me, once i 
month is Rood, Bu ., I havo a bad habit of 
neglecting this. 



HARD STJJICK "End tho hate" demo 
HEREST West Germany 9/6/86 
HE7I3SI Nottingham 7/7/86 
HERKSI German Rehersal U/21/87 



5) PIKD SOME C0NTACT3I 



Getting the names and address**,* of 
other .tape traders is orobably the hard- 
est part of the whole nrocess, but some- 
times they Just fall in your lap. lliuht 
HOW | looking in/throu/;h the classifieds 
in MRR and Flips ide Eire your heat bets for 
finding contacts. Another «asy way is ask- 
ing anybody you write to if they want to 
trade tapes. Many times, they -fill. Sorce 
people will xerox 'Off your list and acr.d 
it to other interested parties. It is cool 
if you do the soma, it brings alot noro 
tape traders iiito the fold. 



LAST OPTION "Feel Ule Fi*ht» domo 

LAST RIGHTS demo 

LEKWAT "Enforcer" demo 

LEBWAT Rlti/N.T.C. 12/27/86 (crowd) 



6) USE DEOSNT TAFHi 

'./hen trading tapes, al-,.*ays use at 
least a decent grade of recording tape. 
Never use i.he one;J t 'at come in nacl'3 o:' 
3 or || for /J. 00. They are .oally shitty. 
'. ..y to use Maxell ua-9-'s, they are a 
good all-purpose recording tape. Sony, 
TDK 4 F'JJI are also dependable. Also, re- 
member that most tape traders use 90 min. 
tapes, this is generally a good standard 
length to use. 



MINOR THREAT Michigan I1/30/8J (crowd) 

MISFITS N.T.C. 1983 

MHRPHTS LAW demo '85 

MURPHTS LAW ??? 1986 (crowd/Rood) 



NAUSEA WNTU Early 



7) CASSti 



Sometimes, to out down on nostage, pe- 
ople send the cassettes without their cases 
then the other person would do likewise {■ 
use his/her cases for the incoming tanes. 
ir you do this, make sure you Dad the en- 
velope well because tapes get very easily 
damaged when this method is used. 



NUMBSKULLS demo 

NUNFUCKKRS "Into tho Pit" demo 

N.T. HOODS "Neutral" demo 

N.T. HOODS "Built As One" tape '87 

N.I. H00D3 WFMU ???? 

N.T.C. MATHEM Unreleased 7" 1985 



H POLLOI "Destroi the System! 

ROM) demo 
•ROM) WFMU 5/21/87 
IYCHOS domo 



IAM0NES Ritz/N.Y.C. 5/31/85 (crowd) 



6) WHO'S GCIKti TO S-N^rsm 7AH35 FIRST? 

Of course, with all trading, there is 
an element of risk. /Jince the whole thing . 
was built up on trust, BS K0NS5T. If some- 
one sends you taoes, mail thorn theirs ..Us- 
ually, if someone tells you what they want, 
you send them the tapes first, unless other 
arrangements have be"n made. 



SACRILEGE demo #1,2 

SAND IN THE FACE WFMU 3/5/87 (poor) 

SAND IN THE FACE WNTU Mid '87 

SEVEN SECONDS "Socially fucked up..." demo 

SEVEN SECONDS "3 chord pollitics" demo 

SEVEN SECONDS Jackie Robinson TMCA, Calif. 



9) HO';.' LONG. 3W LD I ..'AIT? 

Time factor can be a problem. If you 
don't got anything hack after a month, then 
it's alright to send a latter asking where 
your tapes are. Remember, ijU.T factors are 
involved hero: The tine it t-ikcs to get to 
the person, time it takes to gut back to 
you, mail handling and darago, person can 
be backed up with making tanos for others, 
mail loss, person might be sick or even 
die. Just ue patient, most of the time thero 
Is a good reason why you didn't get your 
tapes in a roasoaible amount of tine. If 
you don't ret anything oack, not oven a 
letter, then don't bother to write back to 
the oerson. It can also be your decision if 
you want to warn others about tho person. 
Believe mo, tape triding does no' go \/ith- 
out hassles. 



STILLBORN "There for the Taking" tape 
STILLBORN WFMU 5/7/87 
STRAIGHT AHEAD VFW Albany 6/22/86 (crowd) 
STRAIGHT AHEAD CBSB's 7/20/86 (crowd) 
STRAIGHT AHEAD CBGB's 3/l/87 
STRAIGHT AHEAD Toronto I1/7/87 (crowd) 
STRAIGHT AHEAD CBSB'a 5/3/87 
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES Promo demo '86 
SUPERTOUCH Anthrax Oct '87 (low levels) 



Jcir.oti.men, you migi'.i go', in over your 
head. If tiiiQ V.ap - ens, so::.' 1e.0f.lQin t ,; ..es 
a3 soon a. • ossible o-'plainir.g yo.. iyive to 
stop trading for .Thilo. Then go over al. 
the material you h«yt ictiuirod, sort tho 
;;ood from tho bad . /one'.-iily reorganise 
the wl"olo proces?, i-l. r ike i n<. : list! lien 
you are ready, 3 tart iwiilir.'; out yo;ir new 
list and thnro it goes. 



UNDERDCO Albany 8/27/86 (crowdAow levels) 

UNEERD03 WNTU June '87 

UNIFORM CHOICE Club Pi*a«, Phlla. 8/8/87 

UPPERCUT demo 

URGENT FURI "Just a Cog" demo 

URGENT FURI WFMU 1 1 /20/86 



fell, I hnno arqwe of i*is -i "'ct 
was holnful, Por y;irs, 1 vrr.t : inourh :;o 
many haasle3 doing this :'hi- , but, it WU3 ' 
worth it. :!ot to -rite to in'i ny cocl [ieo- 
ple and in return received 30UM.la.8S ho-irs 
of music. Happy trading! 



WALK PROUD Unreleased 12" recording 1988 

WARZONE CBGB's 8/29/814 

liaMMeM i^^i i?/vi/flii iiZl— Pn * singing 



by David Koenig 



W0R1D DISCRIMT 




BORN AGAINST is one of the hottest new 
bands in the N.Y.C. scene. I can't say- 
enough about them. If you are looking for 
original music, with no-nonesense lyrics 
thrown in for good measure, then Born 
Against is a band to check out. -Dare 



BORN 
AGAINST. 





B« Photos 3H3*M HlLTZ- 



On 12/n/89, Adam explains 1 

Why does Bom Against exist? 

Bom Against exists to provide an out- 
let and forum for our anger and crass , con- 
ceited opinions respectively. We don't 
Just do this for fun- we are bom against 
from the tine we camo out of our mother's 
vaginas. We have always been and always 
will be steadfast bastions of freedom In 
the face of an impending storm of patr- 
iotism and dehumanization. So you might 
say this band is a way of life f a reject- 
ion of all that you hold dear, a true 
threat to the middle class american dream. 
Despite our imposing presence and rugged 
good looks, we are also really cool guys. 
The type of Derson you might perhaDs share 
a small loaf of bread with. 

What kind of message are you trying to 
spread? 

With all seriousness, this band Is 
anti-rape, for gay rights, animal rights, 
feminism and for destroying the present 
day political system. 

Born Against '3 songs and explanations! 

1 ) THE OCOD FATMEn-Rippedoff from Articles 
Of Faith "Give Thanks", this tune deals 
with the farce of American benevolence 
abroad. We don't believe that U.S. involv- 
ement in all aspects of the lives of the 
impoverished third world people ts too 
ben«ficlal to those people living under 
the iron fist. American politics, cuture 
and values have been imposed unon many 
groups throughout the world, destroying 
their independence and adding to the 
incredibly boring homogenous influence 
white male westerners have over the rest 
of the olanet. I don't want to go to 
another country, say Greece or whnrever 
and find a He nonalds and people I is-- 
tenine to Guns 'n' Roses. 



U.S. foreign pnlicy seoms to export th« 
worst, most offensive things that make us 
American, things I wish didn't even exist 
here in the U.S. Everyone is hailing the 
lifting of the Iron Curtain in Eastern 
Euope as a new age and an end to the cold 
war. It remains to be seen whether this 
will allow the worst aspects of our lovely 
country to be rammed down even more throats. 
Communism is fucked and I'm glad it is on 
the way out to a certain degree, but at the 
same time the void created might allow 
capitalism to consolidate its power even 



2) HAIL THAT STICKS UP 

The nail that sticks up most definate- 
ly gets hammered down. A friend from school 
who really likes Godzilla told me that It 
is an ancient Japanese proverb about con- 
formity. I thought it sounded cool, 30 we 
used it. 



3) BORN AGAIN 

Originally titled-Leveraged Buyout- 
This aong is a case againat Hawker, Carol- 
ine, Profile, In-Effect, eto, etc... Bands 
that sign to these labels take the easy 
way out. They are fools searching for rock 
star prestige in a form of imislo created 
as a backlash against that attitude. Some 
of these bands think they'll get their mes- 
sage across to more people this way, act- 
ually they use that as an excuse. Are you 
trying to tell me Crass or Minor Threat 
didn't get their messages across? How 
seriously can we take these new found teen 
stars and their "message" when it is sand- 
wiched between Poison and Bon Jovi in some 
glossy pin-uo rag. As Ignition said, "The 
consequence of being heard, you can't, con- 
trol how they hear your words". The med- 
ium is as important as the message. How 
much integrity can you have when the same 
corporation that puts out your record 
manufactures tools for war? 



i») WITNESS TO A RAPE 

Something like every 6 minutes a wo- 
man is raped in the U.S. alone. This is a 
serious situation-as important and urgent 
as the crack epidemic, but getting much 
less coverage. Rape has been socially 
acceptable for too long in thia society. 
On a another level-the one we deal with 
in the song, throughout our entire lives 
we are conditioned into sick sexual roles 
of objectifying one another as pieces of 
meat. The problem is so pervasive that 
you can't even speak more than a feu words 
without stumbling on sexist language. Your 
own "harmless" little side comments do 
contribute to an atmosphere which makes 
rape more likely. 

5) eulogy 

This one's about the sadness we felt 
when someone we considered a good strong 
human being threw it all away-including 
his own free thought, to become a krishna 
zombie. Steve will be missed. He is all 
but dead to the world now-hence-eulogy. 

6) 9 YEARS LAT5R 

A lot' of promises were made for a new 
America nine years ago, but trickled on to 
quote Rebel Truth and nothing's changed. 
We watched the same atrocities on TV week 
after week and 3till elect the same gover- 
nment three times in a row. 



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7) X-MA3 we 

With the holiday season upon us, many 
people will (jive twenty dollars to their 
favorite charity and talk of peace on 
earth, a way of ditching the guilt for the 
rest of the year. I personally think the 
birth of Christ was a pretty terrible 
thing. If he was alive I would bend him 
over and ram a crucifix up the son of 
god's tight little behind for the 2,000 
years that fucker has done it to us-pro- 
tty punk, eh? 



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WSiWILL THE PEOPLE ANSWERING THESE QUEST- 
IONS PLEASE PRESENT YOURSELF. 
Pi Phil Linden 
TiTom O'Hara 

WSiWHAT WERE SOME REASONS FOR STARTING 
COMBAT STANCE? 

Pi About a year ago there were a slew of 
thrown together, ten minute to make 
zines, totally catering to the posit- 
ive youth crooks. We got sick of it 
and put some hate between the pages 
of Combat Stance. 

TiWe decided to fill the void that the 
other fanzines had created. A lot of 
other zines were boring 

PiLike Smorgasborg, who cater to.... Huh? 
Huh? 

TiCertainly not meateaters, that's for 
sure. And Schism, them too 

Pi (To Tom)Pass the beef jerky... Alex 
Brown is a dork. I have better re- 
cords then he would ever hope to h- 
ave. 

WSiIS THIS FANZINE THE 1st YOU'VE EVER 
DONE? 
TiYes. 

Ps(INTERUPTING)We're not a fanzine, 
we're a MANZINE . (laughter) 

WSiHOW DID YOU OBTAIN THE INFORMATION 
OF THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN fl- 
uff alo.N.Y.. WITH THE "PUNKROCKERS" 
4 PROJECT X/JUDGE?(IN ISSUE #2 OF 
C.S. THEIRS A ARTICLE WHICH TELLS 
OF A INCIDENT THAT OCCURED IN BUFF- 
ALLO.NY. IN WHICH PX/JUDGE 4 A BUN- 
CH OF THEIR FRIENDS RAN AWAY FROM 
SOME "PUNKROCKERS" AFTER THREATENI- 
NG TO KICK THEIR ASS) 
PiLife's Blood played those shows. I 
think it was Jason O'Toole who said 
it. Real warriors (referring to the 
"youth crew") 

WSiWILL A FRIEND CONTINUE DOING C.S. 
WHILE YOU(PHIL)ARE AWAY? IP NOT, WHY? 
Pi I plan on going into the Coast Guard, 
therefore Combat Stance is created 
by Tom and I. It wouldn't be Combat 
Stance if one of us wasn't their. 
Til agree. But to keep myseif busy 
I'm thinking of starting another 
zine, I don't have a name yet. D- 
on< 

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on't expect it to follow in Combat 
Stance's footsteps, but alot of the 
idea3 will be the same . Number <* 
Combat Stance is going to be the t- 
he end of an era. (issue m will be 
the last) 

PiPositive straight edge will soon be 
able to breathe a sigh of relief. 

TiBut not for too long. (laughter) 

WSiHOW'D YOU GET TO INTERVIEW ROGER (AF) 
WHILE HE'S IN JAIL? 

PiV/recking Machine (Phils pal)used to 
roadie for AF, and he heled set it 
up. I had been writing to Roger 
while he was away. We set up a time 
for him to call and we taped it off 
the speaker phone . Buy the legal 
defense repress, it's important, 
(he then tells me Rogers address) 
P.O. BOX 20114, rnrc NY, 10090. Your 
elevan bills will go along way. 
(the AF ep wil be repressed for 
$11.00) 

Til think it's too bad that you will 
only read the interview and not s 
hear it. It '3 really moving. 

WSiWHAT WERE SOME INTENTIONS YOU HAD 
IN STARTING YOUR ZINE? 
TiWe needed a forum where we could voice 
our opinions. We wanted to be he- 
ard. Let other cities know that 
not everyone in our area are a bu- 
nch of pussy vegatarians. 

WSiWHAT IDEOLOGY STANDS BEHIND C.S. 
FANZINE? 
PiTo give bands we like their say, 
and sling a big meaty shit at tho- 
se on the positive pedastal. 

TiSure, we're doing the same thing 
their doing, but we're aimed more 
towards the bands that aren't as 
covered as much. 

WSiI NOTICED THAT YOU THANKED'THE 
STRAIGHTEDGE HATE CREW", BUT ISN'T 
ONE OF THE EDITORS OF C.S. STRAI- 
GHT EDGE? 
Ttl think you misunderstood that. 
The Straightedge hate crew is our 
friends in Boston, straightedge 
people who hate. Slapshot, Wreck- 
ing Machine, Phil and others are 
in the Straightedge hate crew. 



Pi'.Je do sick, zany things such as go- 
ing to Peepland, Show World Center, 
and the GB. .. .Golden Bannanna. (Peep- 
land, Golden Bannanna, & Show World 
Center are Porno stores) 

Til'm not straightedge, but I've never 
drank or smoked anything in my life. 
Except the second hand smoke of stu- 
pid, slummy smokers. 

WSiYOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THE EDITORIAL 
WRITTEB ABOUT YOUS IN "GIVE THANKS" 
FANZINE? 
Pi A feeble attempt to defend themselv*- 
es...We gave him thanks of our own. 
HA, HA, HA. 
TiYeah! Hey, flip the burgers over. 

WSiARE YOU A POSITIVE PERSON? IN WHAT 
WAY? IN WHAT WAY ARE YOU A NEGATIVE 
PERSON? 
PiFuck no.', there are good and bad s- 
ides to every issue. But that pos- 
itive youth fantasy is just a load 
of shit. I'd venture to 3ay I'm pre- 
tty negative. 
TiPositive for myself, but not for the 
..world. 

WSiIT SEEMS LIKE YOU WALK AROUND WITH 
A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER? 

TiNot me, I've got a tattoo on my b- 
ack. Want to see? (shows me a tatt 
on his back and one on his leg) 

Pil find no reason to be happy or 
filled with glee when I'm around 
people I generally don't like. If 
it's not a positive straightedge, 
it's some dimented nazi. I'm prob- 
ably looking more for a fight (when 
around a nazi) Yes, I probably do w- 
alk around with a chip on my shoulder. 

TiHe's got a short fuse, even among his 
friends 

WS i WHY DO YOU TAKE SUCH A HARD STANCE 
AGAINST VEGETARIANISM? 
PiBecause I'm 3ick of goofy vegetari- 
ans pretending that vegetarianism 
has something to do with straightedge. 
Until I see someone fucked up on a 
cheeseburger it's not going to stop 
me from eating animals, and as for 
thosesappy vegetarian half truths. 

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It don't phase Combat Stance in the 
least. 
T:I'm against it because these people 
are kidding these Ives. They actually 
think their making a difference even - 
when their wearing $65.00 leather Hi- 
kes. I guess it's alright if (yel- 
ling to a friend)Yeah, put cheese on 
all the burgers. . .your serious about 
it, but I have yet to meet a vogin 
involved in NYHC. 

WE: WHAT DOES HARDCORE MEAN TO YOU? 
Tilt's just another high school. 
Pilt's pretty important to us, that's 
why we don't charge anything for C.S. 

WS:Y0UR OPINION ON THE WHOLE STRAIGHT 
EDGE THING AND YOUR DEFINITION OF 
STRAGHTEDGE? 

T: Straightedge is as Choke (vocalist 
for Slapshot)said "keeping your mind 
clear". I think Ian Mckaye(I'm 
shore we all know who he is, if you 
don't I feel sorry for youjwould 
agree with that. But in keeping 
your mind clear I think you've got 
to leave religion out of it. I 
hate religious fanatics! I just 
want it to be on re cord i I AM AN 
ATHEIST .' Fuck you god, fuck you 
Jesus, fuck you Budha, fuck you 
Mohomhed, fuck you Shiva, fuck you 
Confuscious, fuck you Tao, fuck you 
Jah, fuck you Satan, fuck you Hare 
Krishna3 and anyone else I missed. 
I hope that this pisses off alot 
of people. 

PiPuck that humanatarian nonsense. 
It's got nothing to do with the str- 
aightedge. I guess I base it on hate. 
...pretty cool, huh?... I hate alcohol, 
I hate drugs, I hate cigarettes, and 
any other substance that would take 
control of one's life. For example) 
The Home Shoppers club. (laughter) 

WS.THE EDITORS OF COMBAT STANCE FANZINE 
ARE NOTORIOUS FOR BEING FILLED WITH - 
HATRED ESP. WHBH IT COMES TO "POSI" 
YOUTH CREW TYPE BANDS. WHAT SPARKED 
THE HATRED? 
PiOn a whole, their entirely pathetic. 
For an example of thi3i Up Front... who 
put out the worst dem o in the history 

more and more people want to get me. 
And then these undernourished fags (re- 
ferring to Up Front )hop right on this 



of hardcore. Recently I've 
noticed that more and more people 
want to get me. And then these un- 
der nourished fags (referring to Up 
Front )hop right on this bandwagon 
"Yeah guy3, you might stand a chat, 
nee against Phil my pockets (Phil 
my pockets is Phils nickname in Bo- 
ston) I'd venture to say that that 
band(Up Front)has a combined weight 
of 20? pounds, including their eq- 
uipment, (non-stop laughter for about 
, 5 minutes) 
T. That's still less then Mike Judge 
weighs. What a fat piece of shit! 
I thought the vegetarian diet was 
supposed to be healthy. He must 
have replaced meat with twinkies. 
(again, non-stop laughter for about 
5 minutes. I was laughing so hard 
my stomach started to hurt) 

I WS :I '" SHORE YOUR AWARE OF THE FACT 
THAT YOU'VE MADE ALOT OF ENEMIES? 
D0_Y0U GIVE A SHIT? 
P:We're just seperating the men from 

the boys. 
T:0ur enemies are fags. People we wo- 
uldn't hang out with anyway. We've 
got a strong following up in Boston. 

|WS:Y0U GUYS SEEM TO HAV2 A REPUTATION 
FOR RESORTING TO VIOLENCE .WHY? DO YOU 
THINK IT IS JUSTIFIED? 

PiNo, I just kind of enjoy it. 

T:Your cheeseburgers are done Phil. 

P:Bring then over... I fought alot in 
school and I guess I just get out of 
control sometimes. We're not both- 
ered by whether we're right or wrons;. 



WS:THIS QUESTION PERTAINS TO A ARTICLE 
THAT WAS DONE IN C.S.//2 IN WHICH YOU 
CATEGORIZE CERTAIN GROUPS "THAT SHO- 
ULD NOT BE PUT INTO THE GENERALIZATI-I 
ON OP MOMMAS BOYS"? WHAT EXACTLY DO 
YOU MEAN BY THE TERM MOMMAS BOYS? 
T:That's Phils bag of trick3, not mine . I 
P:Faggot kids whose mother 3helters, pa-J 
ys for, watches over, protects ev- 
ery little thing they do. Release & 
Turning Point seem to fit in with 
that category... I don't know who said^ 
but they ought to do a tour of elem- 
entary school. While we're on the 



subject, what's that fanzine? (starts 
thinking)AHHH HAAA Unite fanzine, if 
that is the blandest, non-contraver- 
sal 10 sheets of paper that I have 
ever seen. For his next issue he ou- 
ghta just leave the pages blank, no 
one will notice. I bet out of spite 
he'll write "Aw man, those Combat St- 
ance guys are dicks". Yeah, that's 
right we are dicks and I hope to rea- 
d some hate between the the pages of 
Unite. Maybe I'll appreciate it more! 
In Effect fanzine sucks too, read the 
Truth Ache in C.S. #3, homeboys suck! 

I WS. ANOTHER THING IS THAT A ARTICLE WAS 

DONE IN IN C.S. #2 AND PART OF IT DEALS 
WITH HOW CUTTIN OUT ZINE GAVE THE LIFE'S 
BLOOD ep A BAD REVIEW. DON'T YOU TH- 
INK IT'S A HYPOCRITICAL STATEMENT' I 
MEAN. IT WAS ONLY A OPINION, PLUS YOUi 
VE ALSO GIVEN BANDS BAD REVIEWS' 
Pi It was written by Tom. 
Til dealt with more than the Life's 
Blood review, but if that's what you 
want to talk about. Life's Blood is 
a great band with ideas I really 
identify with. I felt that I should 
defend them. I know they really didn'- 
t care about the review, but I thou- 
ght it(the review)sucked. The guys 
from Cuttin Out are assholes, they are 
rude and insensitive. They asked Mark 
Ryan (vocalist for Supertouchjwhy he 
wrote a song about his dead friend. I 
think that's pretty fucked. 
PiTom 3hould have fucked that other kid 
up when he had the chance. I guess he 
just got a stroke of luck while his fr- 
iend got hit by something else. 
TiDid it hurt? 

I WS 1 AFTER READING BOTH EDITIONS OF COMBAT 
STANCE FANZINE I GOT THE IMPRESSION 
THAT YOU ARE BIASSED TOWARD YOUTH CREW 
TYPE PEOPLE. PEOPLE WITH $65.00 SNEAK- 
ERS, CHAMPION SHIRTS, ETC, ETC. ARE YOU? 
TiYou forgot big noses and blonde hair. 
P:I think dur stance on the "youth crew" 
is quite evident. As for the kid who 
hit Gus straightedge, contact Combat 
Stance, we will reward you with a 3teak 
dinner, all the trimmings, our treat, 
(laughter, laughter, 4 more laughter) 



WS.IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE 
TO ADD, FEEL FREE TO DO SO . 
PiPeople say pigs in America eat better 
than people in third world countries, 
that's why we don't eat people in third 
world nations. 
T: Remember to save your back issues of 
Combat Stance. They won't be repressed 
to make more money like the Y.O.T. ?"• 
but they will go up in value. 



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Why is it that only the good bands break up? Unfortunately, Absolution was one of them. It 
is probable that they were one of NYC's most unique bands ever and for that they will be 
remembered. This is a post Absolution interview, in other words, it was done right after the 
break up. I spoke with Gavin on the basis of his reflections about the past, present & future, 
Read on! ! ! -Ohris R. 



WSiINTRODUCE YOURSELF. 
G:Uro. . .1 *m Gavin 
FiJackrabbitfaka Fred Alva) 

WS i WHAT'S THE MAJOR CAUSE FOR THE BREAKUP? 
GiWell, what happened was Alan left the 
band and wo got Sergio, who was leaving 
Collapse at the time to play with us. 
Things were working out farely well. T- 
heir were a few conflicts that I'm not 
going to get into right now, but then t- 
he next thing that happened was that Gr- 
eg left. So we got another drummer, the 
drummer from Collapse, 

WSiJOHN? 
GiYeah, and then all of a 3udden Greg com- 
es out with this bit-"You guys can't do 
any of the songs and you can't use the 
name" and the thing is like everybody g- 
ot really greedy about the band. They 
were like "If we're not part of the pic- 
ture, we don't want the picture to be on 
the wall anymore". And other people we- 
re getting really manipulated about thi- 
ngs and it just.. ..put it this wayi it 
became a real headache. That's one of tt- 
he reasons I left, and as Gjinji put it 
"I rather leave with good memories than 
to have it just become a rotten thing" 

"/Si ANY THOUGHT AT ALL OF CFTTING BACK TOG- 
ETHER? 
G i None whatsoever on my point. None what- 
soever 

WSiHOW ABOUT ALL THE TIKE AND EFFORT YOU PUT 
INTO ABSOLUTION, NOV IT'S ALL GONNA GO TO 
WASTE . 
GiTime, effort, sleeping on park benches, 
losing jobs, starving for days at end, go- 
ing close to criminally insane. Yeah, I 

mean it's like. I don't know, I poured 

my heart into the band and it got thrown 
back into my face. In a way it hurts, ta- 
ut I have alot of good memories about it 
and I look at it as I learned from it. I 
hope my next band -I mean as I'm concer- 
ned my next band will be better then Abso- 
lution. 3 learned things I will do and 
things 1 won't do that I did with Absolut- 
ion. 

WSiSO, WHAT'S NFXT ON YOUR AGENDA? 
T: Right now I'm playing with Alex, ex bass 
player from Pressure Release and Alan fr- 
om Beyond . 

Ft Who sings? 

G:Chaka, who did the New Breed comp. is sin- 



pin?": for us. i 'n looking to hear this bit 
"Well, he got another black lead singer. ■•:- 
o's trying to rede Absolution". I don't w- 
ant to do Absolution, Absolutions been done. 
It's like all these band.*; who want to go o- 
ut and do Youth of Today, Why do something 
that has already beer, done? 

WS:WHY A LP? IT SEEKS LIKE YOU HAD ENOUGH MA = 
TER1AL FOR A LP? 
GiThat wasn't my choice. I wanted to put n- 
ore songs on the EP. See, that's another 
thing with Absolutioni everybody else in 
the band had this keep out of reach, never 
let anybody know what your doing bit. It's 
like alienating people, I don't like it. 
It's really annoying and they were like "no 
wo' 11 only do this much", and it's like we 



Iced to put out more stuff, I'm not happy 
with the 7". 

WSiI REMEMBER LAST SUKHER WHEN YOU PLAYED AT 
TOMPKINS PARK YOU HAD A SAXAPHONF PLAYER. 
WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT? 

GiUm he just got up on stage, he wasn't 

miked. He wasn't in the band, he was just 
some out of his mind dude who had a saxap- 
hone. I guess he got into us and like wa- 
nted to play with us. 

WSiI WAS WONDERING. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? 
Gil never wrote any parts for a saxaphone 
with the music so. ... (laughter ) 

WSiWFREN'T YOU GUYS BANNED FROM CB'S LAST SU- 
MMER? 
GiNot the band, I was banned from CB s. 

WSiBECAUSE YOU GOT INTO A FIGHT DURING RAW 
DEAL? 
Gil got into several fights (laughter) I was 
getting banned from CB's every couple of 
months, it's been a steady thing for like 
(* years now. Karen Crystal, 1 think hates 
me. I don't understand no, I do und- 
erstand why she doesi because 1 must be a 
big nuisanse to her, but I'm not here for 
her to judge. 

KSiYOUR BAND HAS HAD MUCH SUCCESS, EVEN BEFORE 

THF RECORD CAME OUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS 
ATTRIBUTED TO THAT SUCCESS? 
I GiBy not letting ourselves get labelled maybe. 
When we first came nut certain ppople came 



up to us and were like "If you guys arc 
a SE band you guys will bo huge" or "If 
you ruyr- are a skinhead bond you'll be 
huge". I mean it's like the skinhead 
thing with us.... that's one thing, we h- 
ac a skinhead following because all of 
us at one time did consider ourselves as 
skinheads. We carry some of the same i- 
deals now, but it's not.... we're not the 
same skinhead as it is today back when it 
used to be just like the HC skinhead, w- 
hs was a kid who shaved his head and we- 
nt to HC shows, it was a different thing 

Urn we didn't let ourselves get labelled 

SE f no edge, skinhead, peace punk and we 
played with any band we can play with. 1 
m<"-an, from AF to Nausea to Living Color, 
thst's the thing. We just didn't let ou- 
rselves ?et labelled. I think alot of 
bands would go over better or.... no, I t- 
hink alot of kids would be Less alienated 
if people wouldn't let their band be lab- 
elled. 

wsiSPEAKiria or living coldr, ho;, was it pl- 
aying WITH THEM IN CENTRAL PARK? 
Gil don't know, it's like playing any other 
show. I mean, it's just opening up for a 
band who has a huge, huge, gigantic foll- 
owing. 

WSiHOW'D YOU GET HOOK.'- D U? WITH THAT SHOW? 
GiThey were looking for us for about 2 wee- 
ks and they went to our sound man, Jerry 
Williams, They were like "You do sound 
for Absolution?, we want them to play Ro- 
ck Against Racism". We found out like a 
week and a half that we were playing. T- 
he other thing that kind of like ticked 
me off was that The Radicts wore supposed 
to play. They deserve to play, they got 
a good message behind their music and th- 



ey dT^fVt^^^Toplay . They got nudged 
off by some other band. 

WSiDOrS LIVING COLOR HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST 
2*1-? SPY?. BECAUSE THEY (LC) DIDN'T WANT TH- 
EMfSEYZ) PLAYING WITH THEM(LC)AT THE RITZ? 
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
G:Eor one thing, it's like 2**-? Spyz.,.1 
mean, what their doing. .. .well, their g- 
reat musicians, their really good music- 
ians. I'll give that to'em. I don't b- 
lieve in some of the politics, their tr- 
ying to do this big cross marketing bit, 



which I can understand. They wanna make 
money, that's fine, but I just won't be got- 
ten over on it. I don't believe in that, t- 
heir a good band, I'm freinds with the guys 
I don't believe. .. .not gotten over on* it, 
but I just don't, you know?, that wide of a 
market. It's like what happens when you cr- 
oss The Exploited with DRI and War^one , what 
do you have?, a riot on your hands. It's 
like you do a show like that, your looking 
for fights despite the amount of money you 
make, ypur looking for fights. I don't want 
fights going on at my shows, it's a drag. 

WSiHOW WOULD YOU DEFINE ABSOLUTIONS MUSIC? 
GiPunk. 

WSiYOUR KIDDING? 
Gtl'd call it punk. I mean, it's just a new 
version of punk. It's like.... 

WSiSOUNDS GOOD. 
Gilt's all from what wc listen to, like Stiff 
Little Fingers, what we lirten to right now. 
Stiff Little Fingers to The Buszcocks to An- 
gelic Upstarts, it started with stuff like 
that. I mean. The Avengers from CA., all t- 
hese bands. People don't Know about bands 
like that anymore, they don't know their hi- 
story, they don't know anything like that. 
Even back to like Iggy L Th€ Stooges and st- 
uff like that, David Bowie, It's just a di- 
fferent version of punk, it's still loud, 
aggresive music. T mean you could call it 
Rock-N-Roll if you want to, you could even 
call it satanic speed salsa (laughter)i t wou- 
ld still sound the same as it does. 

WSiALLRIGHT, THIS ON?-: SHOULD BE GOOD. I HEARD ,1 

YOU STARTED A RUMOR THAT NEILfEX LIFE'S K D) 
MADE A CRANK CALL TO UP FRONT? 
GrThat was not a rumor. That was tota. truth 
(laughter)I was there. Me and Neil made th*> 
call. 

W3:WHY? 

GtWe were board (immense laughter). Let's see, 
what other things do .we do? Urn... we have a p- 
izza place that we call"Steadily Prank Phone 
Calls". We used to call South Africa and m- 
ake prank phone calls there, we made prank 
calls to Muni c (Germany). I mean a.... I'm fr- 
iends with the guys in Up Front, but they 
can't take it so.. ..I'm friends with them, 
but I don't believe in there following. HC 
kids have become very naive, they discrimin- 
ate because people snoke, people drink. It'n 



just as bartas being a racist. Discriminating 
against something likr* "Oh well, they don't 
have to drink, they don't have to smoke''. Y- 
oah, tut why don't you just tak^ away your c- 
hoiee?, i.Tiy don't we just make- this a totnl 
facist dictatorship then, OK? I n^->-«. I could 
be a total nazi if I wanted to, people have .*>- 
ecn mo be real nasty. 1 moan, * could be like 
t^at all tno time if I wanted to anc it's like 
1 don't. It's just stupid to come dov.71 on pe- 
ople because their livirv. their lives; their way. 

WSi-lTCRY NOV/ AND THSN I'LL Sl-E ABSOLUTION TAGSr.D 
UF ON TIE WALL. WHO'S THE CULPRIT BT.KItlD THAT? 
G;Theirs Hush from Sports crew, me, Qjinji, Se- 
rgio, this kid John from Q'-eens. Alot of peopl- 
e put it up, but it's mostly me and jjinji. 

WS:I£T ME GUESS, IT'S WHEN YOUR BOARD? 
C1N0, it's when I have paint. 

WS»PAINT?(1 THOUGHT Hi: SAID PAIN) 

GiPAINT How do you think 1 get it up? You 

think I weld it on the wall (laughter) 

WSiI USED TO TAG TOO, BUT I GOT CAUGHT. (LAUGHT:-:^) 
Gil write, writing is fun. I mean I like writing, 
but it's like. .. .that's another thing, with pe- 
ople saying.... I mean to quote BDPfBsogie Down 
froductions)KHS-l "How could southing be play- 
ed out and somebody be old school when HC isn't 
even 20 years old ye t " { we 1 1 , the quote dosen't 
exactly go that way but it's close enough, from 
the song "I'm still j?l)Xt'a not even 10 yrs old 
yet so I mean, I've been around a little bit lo- 
nger then some kids, so what, bis deal. 1 saw 
a few different shows, I'm shore after I drop 0- 
ut of the scene people arc gonna see shows I 
haven't seen. So, I mean.... 

'■.'Si YOU 1GIC DOV.'H WITH TK>~ ORIGINAL YOUTH CRE.\ RI- 
CH?? 

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1:2 counts of violent crimes. I'll just put 
it, very violent crimes. 

lONC" AND A WHILT I'D Br TAKING A STSOLL TH- 
ROUGH (ASHINGTOH Sq. PARK AMD I PZIEIffl I ' 

couFii f Tita:s you'd bi clos" ts sktiihs 

IKTO A FIGHT. 

:I do, kind of walk around with a chip on my 
shoulder. 1 shouldn't but I do and it's 1- 
Ike back then t was a little kid with alot 
to prove. Their was alot of violence goinfl 
around. The only way to counteract the vi- 
olence was to be equally as violent. I meei 
if it meant bouncing some guys head off the 
lid of a garbage can to throwing some guys 
head into a store window. 1 did alot of 
stupid shit I regret and wish I hadn't don'. 
I still do get into alot of rights, I shou- 
ldn't but the thing is now I'm not the one 
who's always provoking. It's like this "k- 
ing of the hill" bit. I don't consider my- 
self king of any hill, like big deal. Anil 
people are always like "Oh yeah, I'll fuck 
that old nan up". Old nan?, I'm el yrs old. 
T don't consider myself a o3d man. 



wr. :is :m rf ANY',:r- you • t: ui' ?.? 
CiThere's a few people ] lock up to. Yeah, 
1 look up to my godfather, that's a person 
I look up to. He's like one of the only m- 
ale people J had in my life that had a rea- 
lly fucked up childhood. V.y mom died when 
I was about 1** yrs old and ny dad took off 
when I was 2. Ky godfather and my sister 
because their 2 of the strongest people I 
know. As far as the scene goes, their cer- 
tain qualities in people 1 admire and alot 
of friends I admire. Richie from Underdogi 
theirs alot of things about him I admire, 
but I don't look up to him. 1 don't like 
to think that he condesends to me either. 

WSiKOW ABOUT YOU FRED 

FiWho me? 

CiFred worships me. (laughter) 

FiGod, Gavin, 4 Great White Hope. (laughter) 

GiFrenchie the skin? Anyone who can't bathe 
for that long has to have some kind of sec- 
ret power. 

WS i ANYONE THAT WHAT? 
GiDosen't bathe for that long has to have s- 
ome kind of secret power. Oh yeah, nnd 
king Hush rock. 

WS i WHO'S HUSH? 
GiHe's a friend of mine that writes graffitti. 

WSiI SEE THAT UP ONCF AND A WHILE. 
GiThe mutant. He's a really nice guy though. 

WSiWHAT DOFS HC MEAN TO YOU? 
Gil don't know, sometimes it means nothing 
more than coming down to the Lower East Sid- 
e and watch a bunch of idiots beat each oth- 
er up and other times it means like maybe 
theirs something thai; could be changed, may- 
be people can look at things slightly diffe- 
rently. I mean, it changes from week to we- 
ek, you know? Sometimes 1 love it, Sometime- 
s I hate it. 



G :That happens with alot of bands. I rwan. it hap- 
pencd kinda with Life's Blood, it happened with 
Antidote, '.fell, Antidote stuck around for a :. 
little while but it happens with alot of bands. 
It's really weird, buta....yeah well, I wasn't 
in the band when the Side By Side record came 
out. 1 was running away from the cops(laughter) . 



WS:D0i:S ALL TIC BULLSHIT IN TrC SC .K.' Ar'FCXT 
YOU.! CSTATIVITY? 
:;:In a way, I see shit that ,iust nakes me sick 
and it makes me not want to play anymore. 
It's like "'.fhy am I playing with these idiots" 
but then I see something that . . . . (i nterrupted 
by a friend )'.'hat time is it? 

HSil DON'T KNOW. 
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KSiYOU KAVI TO GO? 

, fliNo, I just have to make a phone call, 
op it. (the tape recorder) 



WSiHOW ABOUT ITS(HC) FUTURE. DO YOU THINS HC 
WILL BE A ACCEPTED FORM OF MUSIC IN SOCIETY? 
Gil hope not. 

WSiWHY NOT? 
G iBecausc when things get accepted they become 
watered down, they become generic, they bec- 
ome easy for people to get involved with. 
That's the problem with the HC scenei it be- 
came successful with alot of suckers. It's 
not misfits anymore, the way I look at Jt, 
it's not like kids who are outcasts, it's li- 
ke. not pointing any fingers but theirs ce- 
rtain cliques that are really elitist, you k- 
now? Like "Oh. we're better than you and we 
have more money than you and we dress better 
than you". I mean, I probably generalized i- 
t enough so people will know what I'm talkin- 
g about. It's about being different. I mea- 
n, I listen to alot of different bands and 
it s just, you know? I don't think anybody s- 
hould have a reason to sound the same as som- 
eone else. It's about originality. 

WSlSO, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY BSFORE WE END, 

G 'I think people should start listeneig to di- 
.ferent music. I mean, everyone listens to 
the same stuff. Theirs alot of music outsi- 
e the US that's great. Everybody is like-w- 
ow. NYHC-, 1 don't think NYHC is all that 
incredible. Alot more can be done v.-ith it. 

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Well, here it is. Finally that life',. 
Blood interview that evoryone talked about 
but never saw tho light of day, >Ioah # you 
lazy baatardf -Dave 



LIFE'S BLOOD was a band that 
deseves a lot mo>-e cedit then 
they got .They were one of the 
few real hardcore bands left 
in the N.Y. scene. They believed 
in the real pbilosphy o-f hard- 
core-do it your sol f independent 
label s, a fast paced, frantic sound 
with lots of power and intelligent 
lyrics to back it up. It's a 
shame they didn't stick around 
because maybe they could have 
a stronger impact on the scene 
add maybe things would have changed 
to the way they are supposed to he. 
But do to ignorance within our 
scene they were forced to break up. 

LIFE'S BLOOD-HARDCORE 
A.D. 1988 
R.I. P. 



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AiNei 1 orange peal. 

JsHs's like our sei; . . . (John gets cut off) 

RW : Adam ,/ou're singing now, right? 

A:r'ea and playing guitar. kind of .He plays 
drums,. John . 

RHiYou (John) had a crewcut on the record, 
didn't you 7 

J:Crewcut? 

RW;What's the history of LIFE'S BLOOD? 

JiUe've been around about a year now 
i interunt ion) We've been together about 
a. year now.Basical )y , I met Adam and Neil 
through their fans ine, CONSTRUCTIVE REE'ELIOM, 
which was the best tannine in NEW CORK at 
that time. Basical ly, none of us had anything 
going musically, so we all just came together 
and formed a band. 

RW:Did you know each other before that? 

J:Yea. 

AiYes definitly, 

J 8 Through CONSTRUCTIVE REBELION. 

RWsYou couldn't play guitar when yav. first 
started in LIFE'S BLOOD. right ?Wel 1 ,thats 
what I heard. 
(1 aughter) 

J:He still can't. 

A:Wel 1 ,if you want to put it that way,than I 
still can't play guitar, but I made a very 
oathetic attempt to learn how to play guitar 
starting in sixth grade. 

Si Very pathetic . 

A : So urn . . . 

5: Adams a tyrant (laughter and more interupt ion) 

AsSo the bottom line is, I still don't know how 
to pi ay guitar . 

RWsHere's a question I hate asking you. What do 
think about straight edge? 

A [We love that question. 

RW;Yai! used to be straight edge, didn't you? 

A:!am straight edge til! death! 

RW:I could have sworn,! mean, no offense but , at that 
show at the LISMAR with PROJECT # I saw you 
drinking a beer. 

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D : I f it was , ! wou I d have sa i 

RW : I thought you guys were a 
I know you (Dave) and vou 

D i What? 

RWsHe's not straight edge, is 

D:Me and him (Adam) are, till 

RWiSee,! didn't know that. 

JiThat's what 1 don't agree 
people can say they'll be 
day they die , . . 

A:But I will . 

J: I'd say you wale up that m 
do this that morning, or th 
to sleep at night, and then 
by day, don't say your... 

A:Live day by day by certain 
to run yoursel f into the g 
straight edge is about. 

RWiWhats your view on skinhe 
etc .in the scene? 

A:There should be less skinh 
metal heads. 

RW:Anti-long hair? 

A:No, we're not anti-long hai 
whatever hair length you w 

DiThe attitude. "' 

AsThtra'i a lot of metal head 

RWsWhat's with the art work 

A:Well,a lot of people said 
the kid who did it has nev 
it, we said "wow, that looks 



acid there buddy!! 
d something to him. 
gainst straight edge, 

(John) are. 

he? (pointing to Adam) 
in the grave 1 

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one thing until the 



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at day, and then you go 
you just live it, day 

r'ul es or your going 
round that's what 

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tting his throught cut! 

thought that was a frog at first, 
would hate to say but that, whole thing 
JABA THE HUT! 



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A:Even though you would hate to say it Shawn. 
S:Even though I'd hate to say it, so I can hardly 
agree (something unheard) the words, 
(laughter) 
RW:And the "PAY HO MORE THAN 3.00 EVER" is sort 

of about . . . 
J:That's just e:<presing how we feel about people 
paying, I mean how can somebody pay,) ike fifty 
do Hers for an B.S.D record? I really don't 
view that as being what hardcore is about, 
especially letting people like Penus Records 
and Bleaker Poos exploit these records, you 
know, why can't these people wake up 1 
A:A1 though for a lot of bands it's an ego trip to 
=»e their record on the wall for fifteen 
dollers or something .they really get their 
rocks off on that. But we don't, we think its 
disgusting. If there's any way we could do it. 
we would like to distroy Venus, Bleaker Bobs 
basically all the other record stores in N.Y. 
RWiMy friend works there, in Venus, Sandy. 
J: I am sorry. 
(I auqhter) 
RNiDa you know her? 
J1N0. 

RWsShe's real 1 y nice. 
JiO.K. 
RWiWhats "Never Make A Change" about, I heard 

its about YOUTH OF TODAY? 
J swell... 
A:Yea,it is. 

J: YOUTH OK TODAY have a song called "Make A 
Change" and we have a song called "Never 
Make A Changs". 
AiThanks dude! (1 aughter) "Never Make A Change" 
is just saving they're full of shit, they, re 
standing there on a fucking stage saying 
"Make A Change", but we know, and hopefully 
everybody else knows by now, that they 
will NEVER make a change .especial ly by the 
way they're going about it by alienating 
people and just saying a lot of hollow 
words. On their new record there's a tine 
something like "Hoping and singing for 
better tim.ES" 
BACKGROUND : Praying . 

A: tea .and on tap of that, that's what it says 
on the lyric sheet and he (Ray) really 
says "Praying" but beyond that, they're under 
some kind of disallusion that they can 
change the world by singing and hoping. 
I think they ought to wise up and speak out 
a 1 ittle more. 
SiHoly shit, two BOLD titles in one sentence' 

AiCan't you see. you've got to wise up and speak 

out! 
Jilt's really sad too because there was a time 

when I was... To me YOUTH OF TODAY has alDt to 

offer,! ike their very energetic on stage, they 

play good fast music... 
A:Yea,thev plav great music! 
JiBut it just hits me as sometimes they can't 

back it up with the way thev feel ,you know, 

it's very sad. 
D:We know them as people. 
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J: "Hunan Power" is about, just like, its advocating 
human power and destroying White power ,131 act; 
power. 

A [White pride, Black pride, Jewish pride, I ta) ian 
pride, k.-Town Mosh Crew Pride. 
(1 aughter) 

S:K-Mart Mosh Crew Ft- ids. (more ha ha's) 
SILENCE OR THINKING 

SiMarshel 's Moshers (what?) 

RWiWas Jason on THE PLAIN TRUTH"' 

AtYea.for a little while, then he started to just 
say he was on THE PLAIN TRUTH and not do any- 
thing 'or them, so Sam kicked him off THE PLAIN 
TRUTH. The other* guy does THE PLAIN TRUTH. 

J ife (Jason) was more involved in LIFE'S BLOOD 
at the time. 

A:Yea,def initly 

RWiSo was Jason pretty much dedicated to LIFE'S 
BLOOD? 

JiUmm.yes he was, when he was. in it, I would pretty 
much say he was very into it. He would show up 
on rehearsal .shows, anytime he had to, he'd be 
there. 

A:He wrote great lyr*ics,he had a really good 
VDice,but .'. . 

J:It;s just, a shame that he... he thinks he's a 
skinhead/mod now. 

Si Freak . 

J:As a matter of fact, Jason , if you read this,I'am 
the one who wrote "Jason Stool e, Crucified Mod" 
at the path station in big letters. 

RWrHow was that show at the Sun Dance on May. 21 
with AGNOSTIC FRONT, TOKEN ENTRY .TERMINAL 
CONFUSION? 

Ji'Jr.'ortunately ,it was a great show, we had a 
lot of fun, but the place is a shithole.lt 
should be burned off the face of this earth . 

AiAnd so should all the people who go in there 
and pay fifteen dollers to get in. 

J:The asshole bouncers (cause) they should be 
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RWiDo you like any of the bands that played that | 
bill? 

J:0h yea, we love NAUSEA! 

A: AGNOSTIC FRONT we always wanted to play with, 
so we're qlad we played with them. 

J:Yea,umm. . 

A:We don't care about TERMINAL CONFUSION. 

RWrWhat about TOKEN ENTRY? 

A:We don't care about TOKEN ENTRY eaither. 

J:I can't get into TOKEN ENTRY very much. 

A:But we were really qlad to play with NAUSEA 
and ABUOSTIC FRONT because we like bath those 
bands alDt,and they're bands we always wanted 
to plav with and it's ironic that bands like 
that, such good bands end up playing a rock 
concert .because that's what it was. 

J : Yea . 

RW:Didn't you guys headline? 

A:Wel 1 , no. the story went that Roger had to 
catch a plane out, so they had to play before 
midnight .so we had to go on after that, but.. 

J t TOKEN ENTRY played after us, so they headlined. 

A:In'a wav we don't ever care where we play on 
a bil I . 

J:We rather not headline anyways. 

A:E:;cept the only place we'd rather not play is 
last. 

J :fleadl ining makes me very uncomfortabl e.you 
have all these preconceptions of what a 
headlining band is suppose to be... 

A:Plus everybody leaves. 

J: Yea. 

AsEsoecially if it's us, everybody leaves, if 
we're a headline band. 

_l:Hey we're a big band. (Ha ha's) I 'am going to 
keep on saying that until the day I die. 

RWiWhat do you think of that review on that 
show thai aopeared in YES ZISTA fanzine'' 

A:We.l 1 , lam . glad they said what they think and 
lam g'ad that people don't like us and lam 
glad they don't like us for the reasons that 
they do, because it's really gay to have a 
band that everybody loves and dosen't cause 
any kind of conflict or anything, because if 
everybody says "Wow, yea it's cool .they played 
a good set, their lyrics are good" and all 
this shit, they're not going to think, lam not 
saying we made theii think. we just annnyed them 
but, that was fun too. 

RW:Was Jason singing then? . 

A:Yea. 

RI:I heard he came on and started si aging on a 
lot of things? 



A: Yen. Well thats traditional LIFE'S BLOOD style. 

Every member, past and present of LIFE'S BLOOD 

likes to talk alot of shit and slag alot of 

things. 
J:I wouldn't even say talking shit... 
A. -Talking truth. 

5:Talking urine or diarhea. . (cut pff) 
JrJust saying what you don't like. This guy from 

YES 7ISTA,he said that he didn't like us 

because we said that heavy metal sucks, and 

that we hate MTV and Spuds Mackenzie 

(I auqhter) 

(Shawn says something) ??? 
A:5hawn fits in like two pigs in a blanket. 
J:He's the grouch-watch it I 
A:Watch out for the grouch. 
S:Iam not straight edge... 
AsHe's not anythinq but Shawn. 
S:Thats right, lam the grouch, don't fuck: around 

with me' 
A: Ask us the question you have with the devil on 

the ne::t page. Are you goinq to ask us that 

question? 
RW:Oh, thats just a drawing , thats not part of the 

interview. 
Si Ask questions about LIFE'S BLOOD part two: 

Shawn Murphy. 
RWiQh! your 5hawn,you sang at the show at... 
JsC.E.'s 

SiYea thats me man, the infamous. 
RWiDidn'l you have blond hair then? Did you dye 

it? 
Si I was fucking bald. 
RW:0h. . . 
A:It was the glare right? 



I dyed it with the amazingly flesh color, it's 

quite amazing . 

:How come your not singing for LIFE'S BLOOD 
now? 

Are vou asking me or are you asking them? 

:Wha ever wants to answer it. 

Open question. 

lam not in it because it didn't work out for 

a couple of reasons. 

Yea . 

Personalities clashed a little bit and there 

where different ideas on bow to run a band. 

Tea how to run a band. 

A band that has already been together for so 

long. It was just better for me to leave thin 
- have the band break up. 
ArBut Shawn has a new band now. what's it called, 

DEMONIC AQQRESSOR.I think. 
J:NEW YORK DEATH CORE!*' ! 



SsWe're a thrash crossover unit.uh metal core, 

speed cere. 
A: It's cool because they appeal tp the majority 

of today's skins and thrashers. 
S:rea we kind of hit that market inbetween you 

know, we're pro-American but we have long hair 

it's I: ind of coal . 
A:You could call it street core! 
S: (something) mop heads (?) , John's pretty much 

straight, the guitarist is a chain smoker , we'' re 

qoing to be miserable and hopefully have the 

same shacking effect... 
AlHopefully spread your misery through out the 

worl d . 
J (We're from the streets. 
S : I am man . 

JtWe're a major street band. 
Si I grew up in Shim mo alley man, it ain't easy 

over there, off Laffeyette street man, you know 

about that?Oh man I can't even get into that. 
J :0kay ,okay ,okay . 
RW:Are you guys tied in with COMNBINED EFFORT 

records at a! 1 ? 
A: Yes, we put out a record on their label. 
J:P1 UB,[iave Stine is a real good friend. 
A : Yes .sometimes we go out with him and he gets 

tattoes and we get tattoes,and sometimes we 

get hair cuts at the same time and its 

real ly short . . 
JrAnd we spank each other. 
SlHOLY SHIT! 
AiOne time he ate dinner with us. Sometimes he 

calls me on the phone other times 1 call him. 
RW:Are you going to be on the compilation on 

COMMBINED EFFORT records? 
A: I think that one went out the window. There 

was qoing to be one for animal rights type 

thing, but jt went out the window. 
J:What I think he's planing on doing now is, 

well number three. CCMMBINED EFFORT number 

three is going to be ABSOLUTION, the ABSOLUTION 

7" and I really don't know his plans beyond 

that. 
RW:Who was going tc be the compilation? 
J :Umm.. probably us, YOUTH OF TODAY... 
ArBORILLA BISCUITS. 
J: Yea, GORILLA BISCUITS- 
RM:Are you serious? 
J:Y'ea, ABSOLUTION would probably do it, I guess. 
A:l don't know.probabl y not.NAUSEA- 
JiNAUSEA would da it. 

A: Those are probably the tyoe of bands that 
would have been on it. 
RW:Was it going to be a I2""> 



A:Good question, since it never materialized we 

wil 1 ne'/er know. 
RW:Sa it was never definite? 
AsDave is so busy now... 
JrHe's got alot of shit.. 

AsHe's on Florida law review?????????????????????" 
F:I:You guys were pretty good friends with Duane 

of 30HE RECORC'S right? 
A:SOME,uh I don't want to say any funny things 

because then Duane will get mad. 
D:What? 
AsReferred to our seKual relations. 

(1 au.qhs) 

Take that out, take that out, that shouldn't go... 
J:Na leave it in! 



AlSorry Puane.I had to tell the truth. He 

great guy, I'd say a big part of the New York 
scene died with SOME RECORDS, but in another 
way SOME RECORDS died because of the New York 
scene was dying. 

RWiIt had to do with that compil at ion, "THE WAV 
IT IS". 

A:"THE WAV IT IS" should be called "THE WAV IT 
WAS" .The cover wasn't even taken in New fork 
it was taken at the ANTHRAX.it just had all 
the right people on the cover, so they blew 
i t up . 

RWlHow many cppies'of the LIFE'5 BLOOD e.p. 
were pressed? 

A: Nine hundred, there may be another pressing 
a second pressing. 

RWsIs it sold out now? 

A:Uh 

J: r retty much. 

A:Yea esential 1 y . 

JiThe second Dressing we're not going to sell 
in New York, I don't think. 

A:We I MOW we WON'T, if there is a second pressing 
it won't be" available in New York. 

J:Its_ just going to the distributors. 

A:We may have some to sp'id out to people, but if 
you have a New York address we won't send it 
to you, so don't send us your money. 

J i You had your chance,fags. 

R'WsDid you have a demo out to support the 7"? 

JsWe had a couple of like... 

A:Bad rehearsals we taped. 

JjLike live sessions at Don Fury's that we gave 
to some people who are our friends. 

A: Than people taped it etc., so it kind of became 
a demo 

J: It was never on sale or anything. 

RW: Wasn't Jason of KRAKDOWN going to sing -for 
LIFE'S BLOOD? 



" 


: Rumor had it . 










I 


iYea 


he said he real 1 y 


wanted to sing for 


us. 1 




This was right after Shawn 


left, he said 


he 




was 


planing on singing for 


us, but 


then 






KRAI 


DOWN kind o-f reformed. 


think 


he did 


the 




bett 


er thing by going 


to KRAKDOWN 


he re a 


lly 




fit 


in wel 1 with that 


band 


Umm YES (asking | 




for 


another question) 












RW:I guess you can't really answer this question 
but, what sre your future plans? 

JrWell our •future plans as of now are, we gat a 
show this Thursday, a -free show at DOWNTOWN 
BEIRUT 2 and our last show is Dec. 11 at C.B.s 
with NAUSEA, THE RADICT5 and PUBLIC NUISANCE. 

RW:Are you going to be playing any other shows? 

J:After that? 

RW :No , before . 

A:We have one with S.F.A,did you say that' 

J i Oh yea,Dsc,5th at DOWNTOWN BEIRUT 2. 

A:For FREE! 

J: I was handing out flyers today for this free 
show on Thursday and a lot of people asked me 
why we were going to clay a free show, and that 
really got to roe because I thought hardcore 
wasn't about making money and it was just like 
doing things for no monitary gain what-so-ever . 
Last week we pjayed a benefit at RUTGERS in 
N.J. and we busted our ass tn get all our shit 
out there just to play the show and we didn't 
oet any money or anything. 

ArBut we didn't want any. 

J:Yea,it's not like we would tale any.it was a 
benefit you know. 

AiFor the homeless, it wasn't even a benefit for 
some like maybe mildly important issue, it was 
for the homeless and another band that was 
suppose to pi av , IMSTEC',thev wern't even supposed 
to be on the bill and then they were wormed on 
to the bill by their friends and then they 
di'dn't show ud because they wanted to play a 
show for money instead . INSTED, instead cf doing 
the right thing. 

RW:What bands are you into or influenced as 
LIFE'S BLOOD? 

JiBands that I was really influenced by urn were 
like the CATOMTAWICS and JERRY'S KIDS just 
because they had like.. for myself as a drummer 
they had like a fast noisy, you know like 
frantic stvle and tliats what I like. 

A:And I like BLACK FLAG and the DEAD KENNEDYS 
and the YOUTH BRI6ADE from L.A. 

RW:I guess thats it I can't think of any more 
quest ions . 

J: (to ADAM KAPLAN) -Do you have any questions, 

think up of some questions. 
AKsI'aro not involved with this thing. 
ArHe's a spectator. 
RW:Any last comments of any thing? 
A:Neil's not here but if he were, urn... 
J:He'd be just as ugly. 
A:He'd be just as ugly yea. 
JiLITES BLOOD sucks... 
AsLIFE'S BLOOD sucks, but so do you, so we're all 

equal in that respect. 
RW:I guess that's it. 
J: Thats it^ 
RW : Tea . 

THE END 




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THE COLLECTOR'S CORNER 



Vm going to begin thla edition of CC 
with a call of good lock to everyone in- 
volved this tin.. IT you make at lout 
on* dul, you have boon auocessfal. Thank 
you for participating. Thro, things have 
boon boUiorlng as. First, I ssnt out to 
alot of auction* in th* put ooupla of 
months. I couldn't bellava It that all 
ths rsoord prices were aa high aa thav 
were. It 1» entirely out of oontrol. Loo 
act aala prlcoa ara Mora raallatlo. 
Ihara auat ba alot of rich klda out there 
because anyone who la paying B5h.no and 
up for records auat hava aonay to burn. 
•all, the Joko la on than whoa they gat 
oat of hardcor., the re-Bale value Mill ho 
and you'll loaa your aonay and tha record. 
Second, I 've bean hearing a few reporte 
that bootlegging la on tha rlaa In Europe. 
So far, thara la an antidote, Abuasd, 
«TC "Togsthar" A Cro-Haga live In all 
bootlegged onto I2"'e. > big fuck yon 
goaa oat to all Involved. Third, aa tha 
atory goaa, aaaeone paid 1250.00 for a 
copy of Jadge'a rare In "Caning Xing Can 
Soak HI*. What are you oat of your fuck- 
ing alnd?! That goaa beyond paying high 
prleea for a record. It la just atupldlty. 
Anyways, enough of tha gripe. Hare'a aone 
trade lists and addressee. If you're Into 
trading, send lute to all these people 
even though you night not even ba Inter- 
ested In tha lists presented. Koet people 
trade heavily and night hava aoro stuff 
md night not have other things. Happy 
record hunting I -DiVK 



buk uTUaKaVs ntua list 

"Bat I hava to tradai 

•UZOn ?• 1st praaslna 

D.I.O. TCOETKER Coop. 7" 1st prase (alas*) 

SIM IT 3TD1 r 1st pressing 

WO KB a aBaOB 7* 1st pressing 

CHI in Of SIUD1TI 7" green vinyl 

JUUlg 7* aahtam 2nd press 

AkuaUC OTCTaaTIS -Never 3ay Ma- 7* 

NOB "Step Forward- 7" rod vinyl 

raTTCsUTARS lour Child's War" 7* 

FALSI PTOPHET3 2nd 7* 

OOBIUA BISCUITS 7' 1st prsss, blue 1st. 

HI0H CII1CLI 7* 1st prasslng 

nns for cash 7" 

«W»otaOT "Uprising- 7" 
HUTW* Both 7" flarl discs 

NBB ;■ 

mad society 7" 

PREVARICATORS -Jihad- 7" 
RED ALIRT -CltT Invasion- 7* 

stuka3 over bedrock 7* 

uprise 7" 

iii3i0" "uhdisooverbd" 7" 

I-BbbTJ 7" 

THAT WAS THBI, THIS 13 NOW Conp. 7" 

AKHJCAH SCRAPE ATTIC 7- fiord 

BOLD -Speak Out- Lp 

IB3TED -Bands Of Friendship" Lp 

DISSEH3I0H "Why Work For Death?* Lp rod v. 

DTS 2nd »p 

EFFIGIES -Foravar Oroundsd" Lp 

EFFIGIES "Haunted Town- 12" 

FALSE FBOPHBTS 1st Lp 

HATS CREW -silent Rage" Lp 

The Hob Lp on Big City 

MORALLY nANKnUPT Lp 

NHUATIVE TRBJOl 12" 

NEGAZIONB "Lo Splrto Contlnua" Lp 

PARIAH -Youths Of Ago" Lp 

PTL HUB -1) fcimvandmonts" Lp 

3KARTIBS I* 

STARK RAVItll MAD 1st Its 

TATE Lp 

VICIOUS CIRCrJS "Rnflectlons" l.p 

WAitZONE "Don't Forgot..." Lp 1st press 

HARZi M 2nd Lp 

ZION TRAIN "Cllvo Troo- I* 

H.Y. lUaUCCttB -Where tha..." Lp Hod vinyl 

CHISWICK Chartbuaters Vol. 2 

rnUTII OF TODAY 7- 1st press, rod lettering 



Sand all sail and record trade Information 
to the address of thla 'zlne. Hake euro 
all nail has ATTNi ADAH NATHAHSON wrlttan 
on It. 



What 1 ulah to hnvoi 



NEQATIV" APPROACH 7" 

ARTICLB3 OF FAITH Both I" 

MASTER TA"ES Vol I 4 II 

NEON CHRIST 7" 

RUDIMENTARY PENI "Farce" 7" 

IW.ESMEHT ISSUE "Wako An Effort" 7" 

1HPATIEHT YOUTH Original 7", not split 7" 



PER30HAL1TY CHISIS Lp 

STAIKS -John Wayne „a a Nasi- 7- not boot. 

Hunzt -r.ullty Pace" 7" 

THE FRONT "Han you gotta move" Lp 

HUSKKR DU -Everything Falls Apart" 12- 
WHT ARE WE HERE Con,.. 7" w/C.O.C. 

HAKINAL HAH "Double Dw.e»Lp u/lyrlc sheet 

KIKUTKHKN "Joy- 7" 
iniSKBl DU "In A Free Land" 7- 
KINOR THREAT Both T 

"■'■'•*■ anaBnaananuafanV "SoneUdruj Better 
Change", "rrluaph Of Tho Ignorolds", 
■frlBoner n 7", "lHaco Sucks" 7" 



FREDOT ALVA'S TRADE LL3T 

What I have to tradsi 

IUUUT "Unaaployed" 7" 

PROJECT I 7* 

CRUCIAL I0UTH -Straight k Loud- gp 

TDCO )D -Dutch Hsroulee- Ep Orssn vinyl 

WIDE AWAXt 7- 1st prasslng 

TBI ■» Placs In Tha Sun" op 

JUSTICE LEA3UE "Think Or Sink- 7" 

SICE 0? IT ill 7" 1st prasslng 

.1101 BT SHU 7* 1st pressing 

lourr ORAMig -Fan Qofc" 7" clear vinyl 

li SglHS -Taatarday's Hsroes- 7" 

SHAH 69 "Hsrshsn Boys" lp Orlg. w/,:at*f ./i? - 

Bmma or pnoy 12" 

3LAPSH0T 7" groan vinyl 

VISIOI 1st T- 

KEREST "■aver Healed- flaxl 

UPIUSI -Ons By Ons* 7" 

HALT OPT 7* rag vinyl 

D anil's CU •Brain Dead Baby" 7- 

OORILLA BISCUITS 7- lat prsss, blue lsttsro 

iUUOHTEl 4 THE nooa -800100x0- T" no cover 

JUKE 7* Sohlan 1st pressing 

TCE» hsTRI -Prcai Beneath The Streets* Lp 



OUTBURST T- bias 

aun iii a caowc 7- 



What I alak to havsi 



SLUOOO •Coatradlatlon- Sp 

EFFI0IE3 -Bod-bag- 7- 

bTTIOIES "Haunted Town" Sp 

ORAVDI IMOEa> 

HEON CHRIST 7- 

HUKS lp on Posh Boy 

1-RAT SPBI -Oh Bondaga- 7" or 12- 

KORO -700 Quo" 7" 

ZERO BO-IS ■Livin g In T«s '80's- 7" 

HEQIOS "IQJ2" 7- 

FIHAL OOBTLIOT -In the Fasdly- Ep 

JEPRT'S E1D3 -Thla la AlbuQusrous, not 

Boston- Ep 
WHITE CROSS 7- 

REALLT RED "Teaching you the Fear- Lp 
RAJSI RATOUs "Baaeaont Soraaas" Ep 
CRUCIFII "1981,. 7" 
GRAT HATTER Lp an RAB records 
STRin UHDffi 7" or 12- 
OILS -196 ascends of...- 7" 



ETtAOT -till For Cash" 7- 

TOUHO AXD THE USELESS 7" 

AKBBIX "HonoUth" lp * 7"'s 

PUSHDRT camp. 7" 

PEB3CHALITT CHISIS "Croatures For Awhile" Lp 



Fanalnea I wunti 

DISREOARDB) /1-S 
ORuTklE 'l-Jj 
0UILL0T1HE #1-7 
EHD OF THE WORLD ffk 
THINK II. :, 
RIPPER Any 
LEADINO EB1E »1-3 
TOUCH 4 00 any 

Also I an looking for flyers from tho 
following bands 

Articles Of Faith 

N.C.T.A. 

Cruclfli 

Void 

H.D.C. 

OFFENDERS 

Old N.T. flyers 

My address Is I 

Freddy Alva 

35-18 93rd stroi-t 

Jackson Height*, N.Y. 11372 



SAM He PIIKETEK. TRADE LISTi 

What I have to trade i 

ALBANY STTLB 7" comp. 
DOUBLE 7" 

LIFE'a BLOOD "Defiance" 7" any press 
IN YOUR FACE 7" 

BUCK FLAO "T.V. Party" 7" color cover on 
Unlcorn/SST 
IGNITION 100th show flaxl 
H.T.C. HARDCORE "Where Tho Wild Tilings Are" 

colored vinyl 
FLEX YOUR HEAD XXX cover, europesn pressing 

on Dlechord/Alt. Tentacles 
RAW DEAL original deroo tara 
NBI BREED N.Y. tape cortillation w/ booklet 
PLAIN TRUTH fanzine #5 4 #6 
CHAD! OF STRENGiH 7" preen vinyl 



What I wish to havei 

BLACK FLaO -Thristy and Miserable" Elve- 

away 7" 
MIKUTEHEN -We Noed The Honey- on Tharnddor 

WHITE CROSS 7" 

FKEDERZ "Jsaua- 7- 

RKL 7", "Keep Uughlng- Lp 

FLIPSIDE loth annlroraary laauo 

FLIPSIDE laiuos 1-JO 

SUBURBAN VOICE (SunUHBAN P"NK) laauss 1-19 

Poetar for tha "Let Than Eat Jellybeans" 

cosr.. 
hab.inai. HAN 2nd Lp on Oasstanks 
Original CRO-MAOS daa» (actual caaa.) 
B3K "VhiU Hale Duablnance- 7- and/or 

"Jonestown Aloha* Lp 

Any RimiHTartAjn poii 7- 

DOA -Right To Be Wlld-7" 

DOA "Bo OOD, No Country, No Lies* 7- 

DIX KKBUZBI -Cows And Bear* 7" 

REPTILE HOUSE 7- 

BEaTEATER "Bead A Job" 12* Olvls Tree 

111 anil toi 

FaWrrpiaTII 
P.O. Boa 11US 
Cooper Station 
I.T., E.I. 10776 



ROBOT MAM'S TBADS USTi 

aaaat I has. W tradai 

All Bsvslatloa Bsaa r aa (oolorad or 1st proas) 
aaaspt Jadgs Lp 

UPFRONT •Spirit* Lp 1st prsss 

Mob -lh-,.1 Tha Syataa- 7* 

W» -Step Forward- 7" red vinyl 

ORUDOE *Projs«t EC* 7- bear 4 blood vinyl 

AWAM 7* 

ALObTE IE A CHVOI 7* 

CBUCIAL YOUTB ■Straight...- bins vlnj'. 

JUDOE 7* Schlsa 1st preaa 

wHFXEim crew 7* red onvar 

STRaTCH MAXXS 7" 

What I ulah to havei 

BEEyEATER -Head A Job* COlva Tree Records 
CRUCIFIX LP 

7 S*SOndsA0UTB BRIOADE apUt flaxl 
THABIXS apllt 7* w/Lunohaaat 4 Mission 

iBposslbls 
imiTD HUTATIOSa 7* Dlaclurd 10 7/B 
nODRLB 7" 
DEEP WOUND 7* 
IKT-ST 7- 4 12* 

Also, nasd tha following tapes i Kagatvrs 
approach dean, Inpaot Unit dean. Youth Of 
Today dean, antidote dano * Operation rvy 

deno. Write for trade Hat. 

Rob Mars 

7 Vallsy Point Drive 

Holndel, H.J. 07733 



CHARLES HAOOIO'S TRADE LISTi 

What I have to tradai 

DICKIES "Incredllble Shrinking Dloklas" 
Lp yellow vinyl 

CLASH "Black Market Clash" 10* 

BAD BRAINS • Pay To Cum* 7" orlg. no p/e 

BAD BRAINS -Rock Far Light" Lp Oerneui 

orlg. white vinyl w/lyrlos 
POISON IDEA "Rocord Collectors..." 12" 

orlg. red vinyl 
DICKIE white vinyl 10- 
VISION "Undiscovered* 7" 
CHAT" OF STREOTH 7" green vinyl 
OOWLLA BISCUITS 7" yellow vinyl 
HALF OFF "SOEP" 7" bLack 
MENTAL DECAY 7" 
JFA "Rlatant Locallam" 7" 
ANQSUC UPSTAKtS "Reason Why?" 12" 
DON'T MO "Incite The Riot" red cover Lp 
SLUE BY SIDE 7" 2nd nrosa 
NO FOR AN ANSWER 7" 2nd proas 
SICK OF IT ALL 7" non-numberod black proas 
OUTBURST 7" black 
PAYBACK 7" 
ALL FOR ONE 7" 

AHCT"NCelHERE LEAOBB -I hat* People" 7" 
pcsrrrvs approach 7" 

ABtOLUTIOE 7" red vinyl 

WAHZONB 7* blue letters 

MISFITS "Night Of Ths living Dead" Lp orla 

KINUTBffiS "Paranoid Tine* 7* 



BOLD/YOUTH OF TOTIAT CD 
BOLD 4 -TC HARDCORE POSTERS 
SAMHAIN "Novanbor Coialng Fire" Lp orange v 
JFA Hvs 19Bli 
01 "Joyrlds" 

01 "Tha Fun Just Hevsr Ends" 
7 1BC0N03 "New Wind" Lp 
THE SPECIAL AKA LIVB- "Too Much... 7* 
on Two Tone 



I What I wiah to havei 

1 IsTEST/PHC spilt flsil B" 
I REST TN PIBCts ..wy a,^.. ^ 

I BTOATIVE APPROACH 7" 

I STRAROLBHOLD 7" 
I max CHRIST 7* 



■ 8R(muwul00D 7" blue vinyl" "~~ — *~~ 
lYDUTH^OP TOIUI -Can't Close My Byes- 7" 

| OfjajJgw sTED to DEATH 7a 

lUaTagtDCO 7* 

laa-TIDOTI "Thoa "*alt Bet Kill" 7* 

■ Sra "Oat It Away 4 -Kid....- Lp orlg. 
|DT" "Brotharhocd- La 

I DTS 2nd Lp 



Skirts I haa-s u 

RAH DUL yaaw (L) 

SICK OF IT ALL alosaarln' Una/gray (L) 

SOOBB llfs's not too lair (XL) 

OOBTLIA »r3CUlTS held year grouswl (XL) 

na (i) 

»-^»-TOnai gat Isvsk' H ■ I dan <jl) 
JUJWIUUI oraaaa sa aMWslasrt si. (II) 

CHA1B OF STaaBOTl aa. the «4jV»ls« oa 

whiu (XL) 
CHAIH OT "TDOTI trvat 'til .Uat«/*1te 

on bin. (XL) 

Shirts I wish to hav.. 
(All XL Bssapt where noted) 

IBFEiT any 
•THAIOHT AHEAP Say 
RAH DIAL no asra gaaa. 
anAXoraa any 

LIFE'S BLOOD any 
Jlilllk black BT crew 
SUPERTOUCH loagslaavaa 
SLAP SHOT lora-slam. or shortalssrs ./ 
hockey stick. 
BUST any 
EMBRACE 

DAT. HAITI can T say 
3O0UIDI any (L or IL) 



Writ, or call, 
Charles Hagglo 
3C-: Haywood Dr. 
PARAMOS, ».J. 07652 
(201) 265-U2B5 



CHRIS STRICKLAND'S ThAHE LISTi 

What I havs to tradai 

ABSOLUT! G» 7- black or rad 

BAD TRIP 7" 

BOLD 7* orange and black 

CHAIN OF STRENGTH 7" grsen 

HALF OFF "Shoot Owns* 7" red 

HAYWIRE "Private Hell" Lp sealed 

HARD STAHCB -Face Reality" 7" red 

IH3IDF. OUT "Above All" 7* black or red 

IBSTTD •Hake Tha Difference* 7" yellow 

JUKE -Hew lor* Crew" 7" Schism 2nd preaa, 

Revelation black or blue 
Minor Throat "Buff Hall" 7" splatter vinyl 
PAT BACK "Draw The Line" 7" lot press 

SIDE BY SIDE "Only Toung..." 7" 2nd press 

SLAP SHOT 7" black 

SLIPKNOT 7" rod 

TimNTMQ POINT 7" lot proas 

UNIT PRIDE "Then And Now" 7" 

WARZONE 7- 3rd press a/blue letters 

"IDE AWATI "Ct, Hardcore" 7" 2nd press 

WRECXIN.-, CREW 7* red cover 

X MARKS THE SPOT 7" 

YOUTH BNIQADB *Vbat Prloo..." black 

OORILLA BISCUITS "Start Today" Lp purple 

N.Y.C.H.C. *Where the Wild Things Are" Lp 
gold vinyl 

ALONE IN A CROWD 7* 

CRUCIAL YOUTH "Crucial Yule" 7" green 
OORILLA BISCUITS 7" yellow 
MADBALL "Ball Of Destruction" 7" 

IMPACT UNIT "My Friend, tha Pit" bootleg 7" 
ANTIDOTE "Thou Shalt Hot Kill* 7" 
UPFRONT "Spirit" Lp 1st pressing 

What I wish to havei 

INFEST any 

BFOATUE APPROACH 7* 

YOUTH OF TCOAT "Can't doae My lyea" 7" 

XXD THE WARZONE Conp. 7" 

TOKEN ENTRY "Ready Or Not" 7" 

OETTIirj SHTT FOR OROWTNO UP/THANKS 7" 

ALIVE 4 KICXTarj Comp. 7" 

STALAO 13 *In Control" lp 

REFLEX FROM PAD! -Black 4 white" 7" 

SECOND WIND "Security" Lp 

PROCESS OF ELIHTKAriON Comp. 7" 

uNIFOHH CHOICE "Screening..." Lp lat press 

CTA 7* 

UHBAH ASSAULT 7* 



MAKE IT WHK Ca^>. 7" 
UHDEKDCO 7" 

DIE, JrCHH! , DU CcBf*?. 



All aU goM u.i 
Ohrli StrlokUivl 

111) Hm<f^ i']«0# 

Bed Bank, K.J. 07701 



BOB '3 TRADE LISTi 
What 1 have to trader 

»0 nUUB "Ths Bp- 7" 

ACTIO* PACT/DRAB MAH'S SHADOW Split 7" 

MINON THREAT "Uw .t Buff Hall- 7- BL 1 HP VI 

IOKITIOH "31nkar" 7- 

CHRONIC DISORDER 7" 

DRI "Violent Paolfleatlon" '/■ 

nxSH OOLOHO 7" 

RODI "Whan I ma Dead" 7" 

PROFESSIONALS -Just Another Dreaa"7" 
OBH "Olvs Ha Firs- 7" 

P0I30« ama -all Systems Go" 7- 

SWIZ "Down" Blua vijiyl 7" 

THE HAD Triad leg- 7" Ho PS 
BT7 "Submit To Them l"roely" 7" 

Bad Tide) -lelp * Salad- 7- 

U.S. CHAOS -An Ira For An Bys" 7" 

DOUBLE 7- 

SO* OF SAM 'Childhood Oemes" 7' 

LRON CROSS "Baud It Prowl* 7* 

TH1 riEDSRZ "Tmeahsrs In Spaes" 12" 

TKB OERMS "liana Soars' 12- (Live) 

AsTI-OOD CAN'T BOUNCB 12* 

BABY ASTRONAUTS -111 Tha Panoakaa Too Can 

Bat* 12* 
KAOOOT JlKMIKa -Oat Off Tha .1U»' Lp 
STRAIGHT AHEAD -Breakaway- 12" 
BRD ROCKKBS -Conditloo Bad- 12* 
REST III PIECES "Hy Rags" Lp 
THR ADVERTS "Crossing Tha Bad saa- If 



I0OT POP * TUB STOOOES -Johanna- 7- «ra«n 
ABSOLUTION 7- hlaok or rod vinyl 
' ALTERNATIVE ATTACK -Ho Turnln' Pack" 7" 
•LAO OT DEMOCRACY -Love Songs" orlf. 7* 
pink sleeve 
ARMED CITIZENS -Hake Sanaa- 7" 
AWAREI T" 

BUCK FLAO -Loula, Loala- 7" Pooh Boy 
CHEMICAL PKOPI.E -Oood, Bod, 4 Th. Ugly- 7" 
CONTLICT -Tha Rattle Continues" 7- 
CRASS -Harry 1-sssma 7» 
D1SCH0RDS -Dirty Habits" 7" 
EDDIE & THE HOT PODS "Fought for Vou" 7- 
I FKKDRKZ "Jaaua- 7- 
| JACK3K1T "Hick-town" 7- 
LAW AND ORDER -Anything Rut Tha Critics 
Choice- 7" 
UJUTIMATB REASON 7" 
I MAJORITI OF ONE -Declolona Mado" 7" 
HDC -Mllllono Of Dead Chlldorn- 7- 
MENTAL DECAY 7" 

NO THANKS "Are You Ready To Die" 7" 
I RANCID VAT "Rulebroakors Rule"7" 
I RAH POWER -Wop Hour- 7" 
[ SERIAL KILLERS "lOSlDHIKS Houne of Horrors- 

7- w/dlrt froai Oory Heidnlk's Yard 
I SI0X5IE & THE BANSHEES -Mlttagel son/Love 

In a Void- 7" 
I SLAP SHOT -Saaa "intake" 7" red vinyl 
STISISM BAND 7" 

U.K. Subs "Live In Holland- 7- red vinyl 
WEENIE ROAST 7- 

THK HUTAHTS/rHPATIENT YOUTH --178 on liS" 
■pllt 7" 
I BAD POSTURE 12" 
HU5KEI DU "Everything (alio Apart" Lp 
HOMO PICNIC "DAYS Op GRAY" 12" 
THR SUBHUHAKS "No Wishes, No Prayero- Lp 
U.K. SUBS "Rndangered Species" Lp 
VICE S'JUAD "Live And Loud" Lp 
WASTED YOUTH "Reagan's In" 12" orig. 
THERE'S NO FUTURE oomp. Lp 
MESSAGE FROM AMERICA comp. Lp 
YOUTH Or TODAY "BREAK DOWN THE WALLS" Lp 

on Wishing Well 
CAN TON HEAR MB? Uva at the llaaf dub coup, 
BARRICATED SUSPECTS coap. Lp 



What I wish to havei 

'JN2KRD0O 7" 

CRIPPLED YOUTH 7" 

PTLLSUUKY HARDCORE -Tn a 3.B, 'imbo 

T.1H rpSSZS "1 Hate Tourists" I" 



URBAN ASSAULT 7- — *-a-^*™*nmamaai 

SEIZURE "All Hall..." ;- 
TOKEN ENTRY 7" 

VATICAN COMMANDOS "lilt ".quad For Ood" 7" 
Tho Meatmen "Vintago batmen- 7" 
STRETCH MARKS "Who's In Charge" 7" 
HEART ATTACK "SUB' IMTNAL SEDUCTIl'li" 12- 
^HJCKWKSTBABrj|3ensaIcasJ«f«rlngs» Lp 
VaRflAl ABUSE "Juat An American Band" lp 
THE F.U.'S "Kill For Christ" lp 
BOUNCING UADIES Comp. Lp 
ami style "live At Sun city 12- 
P"RS0.1ALlrY CSLSIS "Creatures For Auhl!»» I 
CTA Lp 

SCCLAi. BISTORTION "Monny's Little Monster" 
(ORTOTNAL w/gatefold* 



THE FACTION -EplUph n 7" 

MAOOOT SANDWICH "Suckcoss Pod" 7" groon 
SNFU "She's Not On The Menu" 7- 

Dacry 7" 

JUSTICE LEAGUE "Think or sink" 7" 

ISM -I think I Love You" 7" 

DEPENDENTS "Ride Tha Wild- 7- 

BAD RELIC ION 7" 

MARODIAL MAN "Double Inage" Lp 

NIHIL'STICS Lp 

SECRET HATE "VegeUbles Dancing" 1?" 

DTONATORS "Just Another Reason" Lp 

GANO GREEN "Drunk & Disorderly" 10" 

SSD "Oct It Away" Lp 

REAGAN YOUTH 12" 

BAD REUOION -Into The Unknown" 12- 

ABANDONED -Killed By Faith" Lp 



All Ball gooa toi 

Bob 

1 1 1 Botany ST. 
Garfield, N.J. 07026 
trade 



OLIVER UHANDT'S TRAuB Ll.'iTi 

What I hava to trade 1 

STRAmHT AHEAD -Hraaliaway- 12" 

UNIFORM CHOICE -Soraaadng For Change" Lp 

NAPALM DEATH "PTo-i En..." Lp a bonus 7" 

(aaalad) 
IOUTH or TODAY Uva Lp bootleg ($00 nada) 
HEART ATTACK -Subllalnal Seduction- 12- 
STABX BAV1N0 MAD 10- (2000 aada) 
LARM -Straight On view" Lp 
TOOTH YOUTH YOUTH -Sin- 12- 
DISSENSION -Why Work Eor Death- Lp 
MASSA-PIAL ■Nobody likes A Thinker" 12- 
MY HEART BLEEDS FOR YOU 12" (700 amda) 
ErTRBME NOISE TERROR live bootleB 12" 
NEW YORK HC 7- bootleg 12" (1,000 aade) 
»0 n Lp on Mystic 
CRO-HAGS 10- bootleg 
FEAB 0* GOD live 12- (1,000) 
VISUAL DISCRIMINATION -Step Back And Lis- 
ten" Lp 
EARTZ -Because This Fucking World StlnkB-7* 
7 SECONDS "Skins, Brains A Guts" 7- bootleg 

SORE THROAT U3 sang 7" (1,000 made) 
PROTES BBIOT -In Beret We Trust- 7" (lOOOl 

PLAQUE -Just Say No" 7" 

INFKST/PHC split 6" flail (1,000) 

NO FRAUD -The I.P.- 7" 

BIO DEAL "Very MYSTERIOUS- 7- 

STTKKY "Cuddls" 7- (MO) 

EXPATRIATE "No Sleep 'Til Chugwater" 7" 

WRETCHED -Best Of...- 7" 

POISON IDEA "Filthldck" J" (2,000 aada) 

POISON IDEA "Darby Crash fttdea Again" 7" 

R.K.L. -It's A Beautiful Feeling" 7" 

UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED camp. 7" 

LAST OPTION "Overtlwj" 7" 

PUKE 7- 

S.N.O.T. "Slaughterhouse" 7- 

RIPCORD "The Daaage Is Done- flexl 



SOCIAL DISTORTION "Another SUt. of Hindi, 

7" clear vinyl 
THE BURMT "M>"* 7" 
IGNITION 8" noil 
FACE FIRST 7" 



SPERMBlitDS/VALTER 11 split 7" 

liKEEZICKS -Thare Is A Charlie...- 7" 

0ENERIC "For A Free And Llbor..." 7" 

DUNKLB TAGB .'" 

FEAR OF GOD 21 song 7" (1,000 nade) 

NAPALM DEATH "Dsolever- live 7" 

FILTHY. CHRISTIANS/Gnax split 7" 

A.O.D. "Let's Barbecue" 7" bootleg $00 

HERESY "Never Healed" fled 

SIEGE 7" (300 aada only for Abused 7" or 

Antidote 7") 
FINAL BLA3T/Rapt split 7" 
TOTALITAB "Multlnatlonella hodare" 7" 
SONS OF ISHMAEL "Hayseed H.C.- 7- 2nd pr. 
WINDS OF CHANQB "A Proadss Kept- 7" 1st 
EA 80 -Der Herd Fallt Aus- 7- 2nd press 
SETIC DEATH "Somewhere In Time" 7" 1000 
MSMENTO MORI "Travel Thrash- 7" 500 
DIDDLT S0.UAT -Who Need llolp- 7- 
AKP "Dude" 7" 350 made 
FEARLESS IRANIANS FROM HELL 7" 
r"LIT0X -No. 1- 7" 

CHAIN OF 3TREN0H "True 'Til Death- 7" green 
STARK RAVING HAD -Amerloa" 12" original 
CRO-MAGS live Lp bootleg ($00 made) 
3JTTTC DEATH "Need So Much Attention" 12" 
AGATHCCLES/RIBK 30OIS split 7" 
CLHO SBCO "Ao Vivo- 7" 
LARM "Nothing Is Hard..." 7- 
.'I.H.H. 7" 

CriY GF TERROR 7" (Will made! 
HAZOOKA JOE "pastor Of..." 7" rod vinyl 
DS. ••. The CIUPPEN3 live 7" 1,000 nade 
WISHFUL Thinking 7" J00 marlrj 
RAPED TEQIA11ERS 111 song 7" 
PUTTER "Entschuldlgung" 7- 
UNITED MUTATION "Fu»ltlva Family" 7" 

(Dlschord yioi original) 



Wliat 1 wish To travel 

A. CD. "Let's Barboque- 7" 
ANTTDOTB -Thou Shalt Not Kill" 7" 
ASBXUAL5 "New World- 7" 
ACCUSED "Martha Splatterhead" 12" 
ANTI-CIKEX "Anarklst Attack- 7- 
AGNOSTIC FBONT "United Blood- 7" 01-le. 
A.C.D./BEDLAM live split 7" 
ABU:;^' "Uu.l A:«l Cl.rar" V" 
ALS je HAAR MAAR OOEB ZIT Vol. 1 
A.O.A. 7" ??? 

ATTOIXICO "Punks Do Miorda" 7" 
CAPITALIST ALIKNAriON 12" 
CCNDKMNED TO DEATH -Diary Of A U1V0 
Monster- 12- 



CAUSE FOR ALARM 7" orle. 

GORILLA BISCUITS "Start Today" Lp colored 

vinyl and 1st pressing Revelation 
CIVIL DISSIDENT "First Blood- 7- 
CYNAMID "Stop The World" 7" 
CHEKTHA CHROME M0T1IERFUCKEBS 7"' a 
CRUCLTL1 7- 

C.I.A. -God, Outs * Guns" 7" 
CLEANSE THE BACTERIA bonus 1 2" only 
CIRCLE JERKS 7" 777 
DEEP WOUND 7" -I aa» it" 
DYS -Brotherhood- Lp 
hAMAGE "Sin* Of Our Fathers" Lp 
GANG GREEN -Sold Oat- 7* 

BsaTn^LEAiagrS -Dlslnfaotlan- 7* 
I smrks THE SPOT camp. 7" 

nil 7- 's 

ISM "Diet Far The Worms- 12- 

ITOIGESTl/flLECTHBD split 7' 

JINGO DM UI«CH "Cursed Earth" 12- 

Dlt -JtBIZB "Cowa and Barns' 7- 

XORO -700 dob- 7" 

NIBTLISTICS 7" 

K NIsBS NO -Kmas- Lp 

lull Nil Ml 11 GREAT OOSp. 

NO HUNS BO 1st I 2nd 7*a (not DAD 7-) 

Mi HUBS BO -Too Kill Ms" 12- 

NKGATiri APPBOICH 7- 

M1CHT KaKSCH -Aocaptanoe- 7" 

siubotic ABsenua 7- 

NJnWCHlllST 7" 
a-eTJUM -lOtfa 7" 
NSCHOS -Sestrlvs- 7" 
NsOAIZO«E -TntU Paasl- 7" 



1 orig. 



Nam •fed All Dlserimiimtlam- 7" 
r.U.'s -ny Aamnlnm- Lp 
ru«2 7" 

L'ODI SOOLU. T 
HRART ATTAOI -Ood Is need- 7* 
UK Ii7 -asTDnapms Attmok- 7* orl«. 
FRBRZl "I Bate TourUW* 7* 
rUEZl* ikalltor Horn- 7" 
PmOJ«CT I 7" 

I'smSOMALITT CRISIS -C t ea tm am For Awhiie-lr 
11I0LETARIAT "Siaaa lk.ll.uy 1>* 
POISOm rDRa/sTALia ll spUt tscm 
MAJOR COMrUCT 7" 

"ANUaHslUlM -Who To* Vnok Ai-. loulT- 7- 
RKaOAN YOUTH -Tooth Anthems- 12 B 
RsTLEX mOM i-AIH -Blaok And Whlta- 7" 
JERRT'S KIDS *lm This "» World?" Lp orlg. 
BAD ilKI.IIH.al 7- 
iTATl OT AUDIT -»o Policy- 7" 
SNTO 7" 

SEPTIC DEATH -Burial- 7" 
SEPTIC liHA'ni "Time Is The Boss- 10- 
UNITED MUTATIOIB "Rainbow Parson" 7" 
;iw 11, "Do Too Faol Safs?- 12- 
3UBTERRANEAN KIDS -Los OJoa De La Vlotlma" la' 
SSD -The Elds will Have Their Say- Lp orlg. 
SSD -Oat It Away" 12" 

orTENDERS "We Must Rebel- 12- orig. US 
orrKHDERS -Lost Causa- 7" 
LOST CAUSE -Born Dead- 7- 
SEIZURB "rrontllnm" 7- 
'1TARK RAVING MAD -MX 1$- 12" 
N.Y.C. lURDOORB "Together" 7" 
TOKEN ENTRY "From Beneath The Streets" lp 
rOKEn ENTHX "Ready "r Not- 7" 
URBAN WASTE 7" orlg. 
UPSET N0LS1 7" '• 
VIOLRNT CHTIDEKN 7" 
VARAUS 12- '8 & 7"'s 
JRKCKIHG CREW 7" 
PROCESS 0» ELDOMATION camp. 7" 
WAST-D youth "Reagan's In" 12* 
TARGET OF DEMAND "Man's RuLn" 12" 
YES I..A. camp. 12" 
ZMIV -"ajual" 7" 

ZYKIOMK A/MOHAL 1FJ10LITI0N split7" 
IT-NCH "Zlgasia WAW" 7- 
IMPACT/BU'B ARSB Built 7" 
tVSKUM 7" 
lB"UOD 7- 

Also ",.!..-! 1 Japanese 7"'s, LA punk 
records like Controllers, Germs, Fear... 
isngorhouae roloasea... 



My name lu "liver an-1 I live In West 
Germany. If you're Interested, wo oould 
make eome deale. 

Send me your complete trade and want list. 

My address lsi 
Oliver Brandt 
KOLPIND^TRADE II 
K0U'IKJHAU3/1«)HNHEIH 
8700 WURZPuHO 
WEST GERMANY 



UUREN" DUIUET'S TRADE LISTi 
What I have to tradoi 

GOVERNMENT ISSU" "Make m Effort" 7- on 

clear vinyl 
BUCK FLAO -Uule, Louie- 7" Posh Boy 
BUCK FLAG -TV Parly 7- orlg. 
BUCK FLAG -Daaaged" oris, with stlck-r 
MISFITS -Walk Among Us" lp orlg. w/lns-rt 
MISFi™ "WTOHT OF T"?! LIVFNG DEAD" Lp 

bootleg -live at AJ'e bar 

WELOOHR TO VENICR ooran. I2» 

I WILLFUL NBOLTCT both 12-'s 

What I wish to havei 

UNDERDOG 7" w/lnsert 

ANTIDOTE "Thou Shalt Not Kill" 7" 



CAUSE FOR AlJJlM 7" 

MAJOB CONFLICT 7- 

UHBAN WASTE 7- 

STRAIGHT AHEAD 12- 1st press 

MOURNING NOISE 7" 

Also, looking for certain live tnoes it 
deaoa. Hare la my addresai 

Laurent Duguet 
18 rue galllenl 
VL230 oachan 
FRANCE 



Tape trader Into atralglil-edce bands ll*o 
Turning Point, Irrsted, Hold and more wants 
to trade Upes with you. 1 have a largfl 
list of ),G00. upes I. rroords. Favorite 

. la Agnostic Front. Write t»i FI£irRY JKAN- 
rRANJQlS, U BOHNERENCON THE li$, 7$70 
VAUIX, BEi;vlUM. I'm 2$ and honest, all 

1 letters answered. 



Selling records to begin record label. 
Semi for my liat. 

Hark 

P.O.Box 106$ 
Stanton, Ca yOoflo 

The following people are Into tape trading: 

Alex A. 

3678 Tolland Road 

Shaker Heights, Oh U.122 

Steve Dances 

201 $2 Archwood St. 

Canoga Park, Ca 91306 



Please sand for ay reoord list. I'm always 
trading. Also, sand your full aant/trade 
Hats. 

KLka Bullshit 

17$ Sth Ave. #2589 

».T., N.T. 10010 



Tape trader and more, send for huge list 
of Uvs tapes and demos 1 

Joe Chrlstopher 

$93 Senaroth Ct. 

Toms River, N.J. 087$3 



JON HILTZ'S TRADE LISTi 



What I have to trader 



ARTICLES or rAITH -Give Thanks- Lp 
7 Seconds -Walk Together, Bock To- 
gether" Ep yellow rover 
LET THEM BAT JELLYBEANS ooap. Lp 
■NGBI SAMOANS -Back From Saaoa" orlg. 
CRUCIFIX "Dehumanlsatlon" Lp 
Negative Fk Lp black vinyl 
Fli'a "My America" Lp 
FU's "K1U For Christ- Lp 
BUCK FLAO -Damaged- Lp color cover/stleker 
NYHC -Where The..." Lp red vinyl 
KRAUT "Adjusrjasnt To Society" Lp orlg. 
VANDALS ""hen In Rons" Lp 
A1LEYCATS "Nightmare City- Lp 
rEHTAl. ABUSE "Streeta Of Filth" Lp 
JERRY'S KIDS "Is This My World?" Lp X-Clalrn 
YOUTH OF TonAY -Break Down..." Lp WW ureas 
/blue cover 
THIS IS BOSTON NOT U camp. Lp 1st press 
LOST ''KN. "Return From Incas- In 
ANTI "Defy The «yst«m-lp 

WBIRDOS "Who? Vlhat? When? Whore? 'Why?" Lp 
CHI "Fear Of rife- Lp 

BUCK MARKET BABY "Senseless offerings- Lp 
CORROSION 0» COnTORMITY "Rye For An Eye. 

Lp on No Core/white cover 
-LEX YOUR HEAD camp. Lp wheat fleld/HO book 
HEART ATTACK "Subliminal Seduction" 12- 
SCREAM "Still Screaming" L" test pressing 
BAD BRAINS "Destroy Babylon" Ep 
HR "Keep Cot Of Beach- 12" Olive Tree pr. 
Blast "Take The Manic Ride" Ln test pr. 
AGENT ORANGE "Bitchln* Summer- 12- 
JUSTIC8 LEAGUE "Think Or Sink" 7" 
NTHniSTTCS 7" 
WIDE AWAKE 7" 1st crossing 
PHC "Gravel Tmck/jlgllante" 7" yellow v. 
MAJORITY OF ONE "Decisions Made" 7" 
CRUCIAL YOUTH "Crucial Yule" 7" 
AD0LFSBIT3 "Welcome To Reality" 7" PS 
STATE "No Illusions" 7" 
GANG GREEN "Sold Cut" 7" 
CIA "God, Guts, Guns" 7" 

SICK OF IT ALL 7" 1st prcsalng '- rad vinyl 
REST IN PISC3S 7" 
ABSOLUTION 7" rod vinyl 



FAISE UBERrr "S 


Hence 


Ib Consi-nt" 7" 1 


STICKS & ST0HE3 


7" 




AHTI-?iVSTI "Eaa1 


to the Went" 7" I 


gruuoj: "rToj«ct 


■be" 7" 


yellow Tlnyl 


irOsr narnriATioN 


'Never 


Work" 7" 


NO KILK ON TUESDAY 7" 




DISCHArKE "Never 


Again 


7" 1 


OOVKRNKECT T3SU1 


"rbke 


An Effort" 7" , 


cleur winyl 






LAW-1 "NoUiinR li 


Kurd. 


'" 7 " 1. 



Wliat I wish U) have i 

U*.. OPITIOH "Ovarii*.- 7" 
KUOJt'b "fonUe JuatiM" W" 
youth youth YOUTH "flili" Lp 
OFI-'IMDBIS "MB "usL ifr-bal" U) 
CRAY ftiTTfK "Food for ThouRhl" Lp 
Itl.TfiaKJlN Both 7"a 
nKBI' WOUND 7" 

ABTICI-Pl OF FAITH "Wall" 7" . 

AftTIC:.RS or FAITH "Whit Uo '-tont Is Free 7 
T[>1 "A FUCE IK THE SUM" 7" 
CATATONIC* "Hunted Down" 7" 
a-HCKKKAT/MSilOH IUKRilBLE split 7" 
RATTAI-KW OF 3A1KTS "Second Coning" Lf 
WHITE CROSS 7" 

STSETCH KIRK* "WHO'b IN CHAJME7" 7" 
LOST CAUSR -Born Dead" 7" „ 

TESCO W£ "Dutch Harculea" 17 
5-0.5-1. 7* 
HRCHOS "XQ32" 7" 
M8CR0R "Conquest For Death" U> 
A nhlrta & fanslnaa and other records 
I>» probably forgetting- send lists. 

VriU toi Jon Hllti 

1,2. Dm St. 
Westfleld, M.J. 07090 



WAHTTOi Inform tl on leading to the pre- 
sent whereabouts of SUcey nonovan, a 
list of her novioa or VMS tapes of her 
ww Lee for top dollar or trade. 

Contact Da' Mole o/o David Koenif/ 
In Mae*>ry Of. ..(back of 'sine for address) 



DAVID KOHTiO'S TRAM U3Ti 

What I ha»» to trade. 

SIDE BT SIDE -You're only..." 7» let preaa 

TOASTKH3 -Be«t Up" 7" 

HO lt» A* AJOtfEH "Tou Laugh" 7" 1st preaa 

UPPER RARD "More To "•• 7" no#12l/500 

At'i'KRDI I "El Rah* Oo Hun VeluulUh" Lp lied M. 

OPSUTIOH m "Heotto" 7" 

STUPIDS "Lire* 7" red vinyl 

IK3TD) "Bond* Of Friendship" I*> 

R.T.C. HARDCORE "The Way It la" Lp 
0N8 DIG CROWn Coap. U> 

UNIFORn CHOICE "Screaming...- LP ?nd on PlnX 

BLACK njbO 'Six Pack" 7" on Alt. Ten. 

POSITIVE APPROACH "Just Hang On" 7" black 

UPFRONT "fpirlt" Lp 1st press 

T0A3TBO first 12" 

TCASTHtS "Ska-Bocei- Lp 

K.Y.C. BKAT Comji. Lp 

BOSTON SKA Comp. I-P 



trti.it I wish to haves 

fi.'i.R. "Jon<i^town Aloha" Lp « 

ATTI.UDS AWHSWrW-- "No Vor- 

NHiATlVB AiTlfiJACH 7" 

D.H.i. "Dirty Hotten E.P." ?' 

VIOLENT CH.IDERW 7" 

AGAINST 7" 



:. /or-: 
yr. nic 



lU'HIiiHT CITIZENS "Facta And Views" 7" 

NfcArtAN fCirni I?" 

YO'JTH OF TODAY Revelation press, of "Break 

Down..." Lp 
YOUTH OF TODAY "Not In This Alone" Bur. rTus". 

on yellow or black 
YOUTH OF TODAY "Break Down The '.lallS" Lp 

Wlsiilng Well press, w/black and yellow cvr. 
RIPCORD "Poetic Justice" Lp 
KER3KY "Face Up To It" Lp 
KX?IX)ITED "Troops Of Tcnorrow" Lp 
MIHCR THREAT "Buff Hall" 7" splatter vinyl 
BROKEN BONES First Lp or Pic. disc of It 
ROACH MOTEL 7" not "Roach A Roll" 
NAKED RAT-iTI "Basement Screaws" Rp 
NAKED FUYl.Ul. "Throb, Throb" Lp 



HVACT UNIT Bootle 



MBRCYTUL FATE first 1?" Dutch pressing 
HEfCYFUL FATE "Curse Of THe Pharoahs- Lp 






STALAd 13 -In Control" Lp 

1*5 URAVg 'SlMp In SAf.tv" Lp 

SKBX TERROR Lp 

vaxuxers -On. Struul., on. right' hp 

BUM) WWXfX -to Ag." 7" gold rlnj-1 

Any Inf «a t r«oord» 1 1 1 including Lh. 7" 

on purpl. 
HfTlXI CHUB "Too Fs.tt .or Lov." If 

on lAatlmr racord., not Kl.tkra 
PKRTIMlBe; raoorda on Kaal Ftooorda 
KDajW DDLISH "Drowning »%n" 7" on LUap 
761 UNCERTAIN "BatlmaUd Monlny TLm" u 



OTHHI THriflS I MAHTi 

Old Sou*d Straight ahli-t (liLTgat 
kS OMTjlng ban. fro. th. f lftlM !■ 
•lztU. 



I will p*y rcssaiubln (irlcos (,*H).00 And 
und.r for any of thf Abovn rrcorda or will 
trade rocordo. 1 will also rvik« up tanos 
of donoB & llv« mabitrial In trade for th«9. 
rocorda. Wo' 11 work 11 out. 



Also, looking for alb>uiLi ami 7".l w/|i£ 
ciay of th" fnllowlfLT arMntn: Ki-onk r.in- 

alra (pre '65), Doria Irty, >Alle '.air, 
Chubby Checker, lev l*e Sharp, lergy torch 

The Orlona '. The Dowolla, 

3end for pry tape trauini- lint. It also 
han alternative iwtterlal Uiat I'm looking 
for lf you don't hove topoo to trade. 

Kill everything to the adoross on the 
back cover. -DAVE 



RICH OUVBl'S TRADS USTl 
Wl^t r have to trade i 



riri'EkHAND "Kore To Me" 7" 

FOUR MHJ.S KALLDO 7- 

TUBKIW POINT 7" ?nd pma 

SOBmNG CONSBOUBNCKl 7" 

INSIDB OUT 7" blu. vinyl 
™=IITO» 7" yellow * red vinyl 

CHAIN Of STRB»OTII 7" green vinyl 

HBASOK TO BBLI1VB 7" Semele proas 

HAL* fflO"D 7" lat preallnv 

SIDE BT «rne 7" 2nd i.i. .■.!.. 

AIL 1*0« ONE 7" 

PAOAN BABIES 7" 

H3N0B THREAT llT. 7" black vinyl 



I JIDg AUASB 7- SdalA. nra.1 

laltTHRAI (U.K.) 7» 

I PAiBaCI ?• 

I OORILU BI3CUTT3 7" y.Uo» vinyl 

I AWAREI 7" ^ 

I UNTT PRIDE 7- 

I ABSOUITIOI 7" red or bUck vinyl 

I UARZONE lit prMalng 7- 

JUICE 7" 2nd orMBlng 
I CAUSE TOR ALAIM booU^ 7" 
CRIPPLED TOUTH 7" clear vinyl 

I INFE5T/PHC rial «• 

N.I.C. lURDCORI "Wut. Th...," u, bl.ck 

rnang -u m* ymr ood?- lo 



I Any -'uttallSii^^!^^^^^ 
| TDI 7" 

« UJH OP rrflAT le on Vflalang art. 

Hi'blHBiTRy rail 7». a 
* varloua fanalnoa and olher shit. 

■drlU to. Rich CUver 

20-21 'Itopia Hwy. 
'Mte atone, N.7. 11357 



What I wish to havei 

Both CHR71T ON PARADE 7"'s 

ARTICLES OF FAITH 7"'3 * "Oivo rr^nks" In 

NB»N CHRIST 7" 

01 P0LL0I/A.0.A. split Lp 

CRUCIFIX "DehiueiaiaAllon" I, "19%" 7» 

DESP MOUHB 7" 

.5TSECTH HARX3 7" 4 Lp 

PAIR WARMIJC Lp 



SONS OF ISHMAEL 

,-* SING 

lOaongep. 7" £#/»'<: $3ppd. 

r.f<.. 



V Buttons Sip? i 



7J!J T shirts L,XL S7ppo 




stickers S'fl 



For#?iAn orktu 



SO-O Of 8HMAIL 

l*T»Y0NCI ji ■! 

TOROVTO. ON 
Mas i/i. 
CANADa 




E5//I ?(?i££AK 15 W fJrMi 0f/ H^IXoRs 

AWi iM <A» (Ml** *^ b #3-*S 

Da,* no moAte*. Bui \e'Ki i/a-foi-tMr:, 
Avi> ft-Ft «*>&*>'. &*,***?** 
6*ss » W3 fiAvb- VP H416 AH6t> ^ 

n coi o« tUi. & c*v tor **£ teotisj* 

jfiMt ot 'of'lt 8/V*5 IN tin Q»- ft*" I" 
5sf uf sat-- Stir ol fi/sTftirf"" fl=* **!« 

W. IS sMsP.'ilte » »> sz'ttrt.W 
Mats A«S start fail T> /SfsAt-tf th**. 

lis tkK1,Ss*J*' c* W-s-0 to** om 

W£ 4* rVoT A H*M" «**«f*fj.'' 

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